Subject: How i conversate
Author: Chopan

Let me start by saying that any tactic I ever post is from pure personal experience and so take it for what it is and no more.

Leading comes in many ways but in this post I am just going to talk about how I conversate.

When guys get into a conversation with a girl, most of the time it's a tennis match. The topic is the tennis ball. You say something, she says something, you reply to what she said, and she replies to what you said. This goes on until the topic is tired, at which point you move onto another topic. Then it starts all over again. Watch most conversations, and you will see this is exactly how they go. In fact many guys come on here and ask "How do I reply to this thing that she said?"

This is not good seduction technique.

Just because she is responding, it doesn't mean that you should be responding back to her every response. Most guys want to stay on topic and are looking for something clever or funny to say, when you really should have moved on already.

Are you aware of how much you "engage" in back and forth conversation? This is no good and I see it ALL the time. The objective of talk with a woman is not conversation, it is emotion. Most guys need to cut threads much more often than they do.

If you do it right, after a while she will completley submit to you. You create a hoop everytime you say something that is not related to the previous conversation and she replies. Here is an example of a real conversation:

Chopan: I thought you had to be caring to be a be nurse
HB: I can't believe you said that! You don't think I'm caring?
Chopan: Let me see your left hand...
HB: Gives her left hand
Chopan: (look at it, drop it. she is expecting a comment related to her hand)
Chopan: Have you ever water ski'ed? Or is that beyond your level of coordination?
HB: haha yeah right, I've always wanted to water ski but I never had the chance. Do you ski?
Chopan: I do everything. Come here (pull her in)
HB: (complies)
Chopan: (smile, look at her, silent)
Chopan: What color are your eyes?
HB: (with a change in mood and a smile) Green!
Chopan: (smile. Completely silent)

Notice how I didn't really answer any of her questions?

I now fully ignore around 50% of the sentences that come at me. I am constantly inserting my own. You need to be talking to her in a manner where you are in charge of the conversation. That is what leads to seduction. Even if something is funny and interesting and you are going back and forth on it, you are the one that needs to decide when to end it, not her. It should happen well before she does. Just because she is interested in one topic, it does not mean you should not introduce your next interesting topic mid way. Don't try to finish your threads. Even when I ask the girl's name, I do not necessarily give mine. I don't say "whats your name?"... "Michelle"... "nice to meet you michelle, my name is Chopan". I never do this. Instead it goes something like this:

HB: Do you always say that to girls?
Chopan: (smile). What's your name?
HB: Michelle. Whats yours?
Chopan: Michelle... michelle.... She who resembles God
HB: What?
Chopan: Your name. It means she who resembles God. Tell me something Michelle... have you ever been to France?
HB: Yes, Paris 2 years ago, I loved it. How do you know about my name?
Chopan: This is a great song. Come on lets go dance

Do you guys see how this goes? Here is the key: Your mental state during conversations should be that she is already yours. So you are playing a cute game with her. But you already know the end of this story.

Author: Chopan

You are directing the focus of conversation elsewhere. There are two people at that moment that matter. You, and her. All else is distraction. Your conversation should not veer far from what pertains to you and her. Building a common bond can include talking about others but that comes later.

DolorHyde wrote:

travel, hopes/aspirations,
hobbies,
music,
dreams,
romance,
friends,
vacations,
movies,
entertainment

This is fluff. There are times you need fluff to build comfort, but it is not the point of my post.

If you are talking about fluff then cutting her thread and inserting your own fluff, you are exactly what drmassien is saying below, an ass with an attention-deficit disorder. If she is talking about movies, and you cut her off and start talking about hobbies, you are going to just piss her off.

drmassien wrote:

I know
that if I was talking to a
girl who constantly changed
the subject I'd be put off.

Yes, because just like I said above, you are cutting off fluff and inserting your own fluff. This is wrong.

If she is talking about movies, I may talk about it briefly... but that doesn't mean I will get lost in this meaningless conversation.

HB: That was a funny movie

Chopan: You liked that movie? that movie sucked (or was good, or whatever)

HB: A friend of mine told me to rent it and blah blah blah

Chopan: (Smile) (a smile always acknowldeges that you are indeed hearing her and that you are not ADD).

Chopan: what color are your eyes? (here, my tone also changes. It is a much softer friendlier tone than a second ago when I was talking about fluff)

See here I am cutting her thread but I am not inserting fluff. I am not saying "When did they release that on DVD". I am bringing the subject back around to what matters. Her, and I.

Sometimes, you let a child do what they want to do, but you already know the end result of their actions. This is very similar. I may hop down stairs with her with both feet... but just like I will eventually pick up the kid, put him on my shoulders and take him back to the car, I am going to pickup this girl, and take her to my bedroom. I allow both of them to play.

Please don't misunderstand my post by thinking I am telling you to continuously cut a girl off. You do need to listen when she is talking. When you don't want to reply, smile. More emotion is transmitted through a smile than a hundred senteneces. Then grab her hand instead, and ask "whose long fingers are these? mom's or dad's?" you are saying to her THIS is what is important. YOU are what is important. I am what is important. Yes, we can play... we can talk... but you are mine!

This is seduction.

Source 1, source 2.