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RSD Repost: "The Kino Post" by Cinder
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PUA terms used:

Kino: "touch"
IOI: "Indicator of Interest"
IOD: "Indicator of Disinterest"
BL: Body Language
C1: Beginning of Comfort-building phase
S1: Beginning of Seduction phase


Kino Escalation was my largest sticking point at one time. What I did was blast it using pieces here and there that improved my results. I'm going to throw in some helpful definitions and then jump right in and start listing pieces (RPAPs). They should all be used together - the ones that don't work for you, alter or delete them depending on your game.

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Here are some helpful definitions:

Kino Intensity: The intensity of a kino escalation. Touching the hand for a couple of seconds is a very low kino intensity; rubbing her pussy for several minutes is a very high kino intensity. I abbreviate it "KI" for Kino Intensity.

Kino Escalation: The process of increasing Kino Intensity over time.

Kino Velocity: The SPEED that you increase Kino Intensity. For instance, jumping from touching the hand briefly to an intimate hug is a very fast kino velocity. Touching her hand briefly and then next touching her wrist briefly is a very slow kino velocity. No abbreviation for this one although I guess you could label it "KV".

Optimum Comfort Kino Intensity: This is the Kino Intensity (KI) that you don't cross until S1 (arousal). E.g. You hover around the KI of making out and just holding each other until it's time for seduction/arousal... then you escalate the Kino Intensity (KI) to sex. The Optimum Comfort Kino Intensity is where you hover while in public, and before S1. Abbreviated "OCKI".
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Alright, now pieces (RPAPs):

-Unless she is doing a lot of kino on you to begin with, begin your Kino Escalation at a low intensity. I start on her wrist. Just leave it on for 2 seconds and then remove it. Your next kino escalation move will be to lightly grab her arm at the elbow for 2 seconds and then remove it. THIS is your gauge. How she reacts after you have taken away the second move will tell you if she is a fast or a slow kino escalator (e.g. Can you escalate very quickly on her, normal, or does she require very slow kino escalation?). Something that is consistent for every girl (and people in general) is that the intensity is always the same (kinoing the hand is the lowest; kinoing the pussy is the highest)... but what differs is how fast you can escalate (e.g. what is the optimum Kino Velocity for this particular girl that you are Kino Escalating on right now... can you do it faster than normal? Do you need to do it normal speed? or Do you need to do it slower than normal?). If she is receptive to those 2 moves (e.g. no IODs that she communicates [usually IODs will be communicated from her BL]), then she is either a fast kino escalator or a normal kino escalator. If she is non-receptive to those 2 moves (e.g. she IODs), then you'll probably need to consider her a slow kino escalator. Also, keep in mind that if she's around her friends, this could be another reason why she is non-receptive if she is (E.g. ISOLATE before continuing your kino escalation to higher intensities [KI]).

-Use Kino Testing/Pinging to find how receptive she is to your kino and how much further you might have to go depending on the feedback that you get from your tests. Once you get feedback and then try stuff and get results or not, your intuition will start to tell you what you can and can't do based on what feedback you get from these tests that you do with her. Example of Kino Testing/Pinging: the Trust Test.

-Use alpha kino. This is kino where it is 100% authoritative, and kind of monkey like. Be GENTLE when POSITIONING your kino, but completely relax the part that you are kinoing her with once it is in place. For example, slide your arm around her shoulders and then completely just let your arm relax and rest on her shoulders (where she is carrying the complete weight; you're not trying to press down on her though).

-Slide Into Your Kino Escalations. This is like rapport assumption, but with Kino, like she and you have been going out for a long-ass time. So taking the arm around shoulder example again, instead of plopping it down, slide into place when you are kinoing, thus assuming that you already know each other.

-Be discreet with the kino from the peer group. This doesn't mean like super super discreet, just pretty discreet. Just as an example - boyfriend is standing looking at you guys every once in awhile... you and the girl are both about 4 inches apart with arms down at sides. She makes a comment, so you touch her hand with your hand. the boyfriend will not notice this... however, if you were 8 inches away (further away and being less discreet with your kino), then the boyfriend would notice and sweep in some.. which gives worse reactions (still keepable, btw).

-Hover at the Optimum Comfort Kino Intensity (OCKI). This is right around the Kino Intensity (KI) of kissing. This is the kino intensity that you hover at all the way from C1 to S1... and then in S1, you escalate the Kino Intensity (KI) to sex. The tipping point of the OCKI (an example of the maximum that you can do without getting into buyers remorse before it's time to escalate in S1) is playing with the fingers with your fingers in a sexual way.

-Use a ROUTINE that you do with Kino. This helps improve consistency and makes it money. I like to work up the arm and then down the back and then go into the Evolution Phase Shift routine and then use a different ending to do the makeout other than the evolution phase shift's makeout. Here's my routine on a girl who is a normal kino escalator: wrist, elbow, top of arm, top of shoulder, top of back (below neck), middle high of back, middle of back, lower back, Smell hair at ear(beginning Styles Evolution Phase Shift), pull hair, bite inside of elbow joint, bite her neck, makeout. The beauty of treating it like a routine is that it POLISHES... just like a regular verbal routine does. It gets really good after you've used it 20 times.

-If you have not reached the OCKI yet, and you can not fully continue your escalation at this point (for instance, you're running a 2-set and you need to occupy both girls and at the same time you want to be discreet with your kino from her friend), then hover at the maximum kino intensity that is acceptable. Then escalate further once you and the target are alone or the friend is occupied.

-Never do the same kino twice. If you want to do the same kino, do it with a slight variation. Optimally, though, always do something different. If you've already spent some time with interlocked fingers, this time rub her palm with your thumb... etc. [It's just like saying the same thing twice... it displays lower value. And this makes since too because touching and talking are both one thing: communication. Communication meaning: BL, Tonality, and words... the combination all together of what is going on.]

-Kino Escalate the group. This is something that I stemmed from *****; I'm still experimenting with this in my game. If you've ever noticed how if the BT of one girl in the set is much higher than another girl in the set, then 1 of 2 things will take place: the girl with the higher BT will either get her friend into state via Kinoing and basically communicating "it's fun!" OR the girl with the lower state will try to pull her friend away. If you want to get away with kinoing your target, AND you are working multiple girls at the same time, then you'll want to kino each of them every once in awhile. Now you have 2 solutions going on: they think that you're just a touchy guy... and their BT levels are the same, so it's okay to escalate your Kino with them both (to a certain Kino Intensity... unless you're really skilled at this area and just go for a 3-way makeout and 3-some).

-Wait between 30 and 41 seconds INBETWEEN your Kino Escalations. This is intuitively guided.. and might be hard to express over text. Basically, the optimum time of not Kinoing BETWEEN the Kino Escalations that you do - is 30 to 41 seconds. For some reason, this timing makes a faster kino velocity more acceptable. I simply apply this via intuitive guidance as to when I should take off and when I should apply kino. Of course, I wouldn't recommend to count or time it in set... just keep that time frame in mind for the fact that it allows you to kino escalate faster via having some pause in your touching.

-Kino Early if you can. Acceptable Kino Escalation is where she's giving IOIs during and after you release from your Kino Escalations. Kinoing early and having it acceptable is an awesome piece because it allows you to Kino Escalate more quickly on average (e.g. you can do a faster Kino Velocity now because you Kinoed early upon meeting them). The converse is also true: If you start the Kino Escalation late (e.g. you've been talking to her for a long time, and then you start making moves), then you usually need to Kino Escalate slower in order to make those Kino Escalation moves acceptable.

-Use a baseline conversation while Kino Escalating. This one is probably well known, but worth a reiteration. Bullshit Baffles Brains - If you are taking her mind somewhere else, the kino is much more easily accepted as it seems more congruent and natural.

-Don't talk about the kino that you ARE doing or HAVE done. Unless it's high octane material, I'd suggest against it (a couple of examples of high octane material: the Evolution Phase Shift; and holding the hands with "this is subcommunication, we don't talk about this"). Reason being because it makes it seem less congruent, and you want it to #1 come off congruent, and #2 come off natural. Talking about it usually indicates neither, so I suggest to not do it all together. [e.g. don't talk about how good of a kisser she is... it's a mistake].

-Watch for IODs from 2 places: 1) WHILE you are doing the Kino Escalation move; 2) AFTER you've taken the kino escalation move away. If it's WHILE you are doing the kino escalation, then IOD her right away (Example of IODing her: If you were trying to hold her hands, throw her hands away; If you were trying to go in for a kiss and she gives unreceptive BL, do a takeaway from her with your back turned). If it's AFTER you've taken the kino escalation move away (e.g. you did the move.. now you are not touching her.. and during this non-touching her thing, her BL looks like she's a little uncomfortable, then that's an IOD from your last kino escalation that you did). So what you do for this is just not touch her for about 2 minutes - purposely keep your body away from her and hands at side so you don't accidentally touch her during this mini-freezeout. Then you can continue like normal after about 2 minutes (where during those 2 minutes, hopefully you were talking the whole time) because you'll notice that she loses the uncomfortable BL and then she starts giving receptive BL (IOI BL).

[like I said, these are all addition pieces. Try them out, and if some of them don't work for you, then don't use them or alter them to your game. The biggest and most common mistake with Kino Escalation is Not taking into account the girl's comfort level. During and after you kino, you're always looking for how she is taking it - although she doesn't know that that is what you are doing, because your BL is congruent with "this is me.. I'm not trying to act a certain way... this is who I am"].

Here's some other pieces/tips:
-If there is a gap between you two, use Palm Reading to close the gap and to start the Kino Escalation. For daytime game and some hired guns, something I've noticed is that you need to close the gap between you when it's time to start Kino Escalating. Whereas club game, it's totally normal to kino and be close so that you can hear them.. daygame is often started with your body's a little more distant. Use Palm Reading to close the gap and to start the Kino escalation. Now she's in close and you can escalate like normal.

-Do higher intensity kino escalations (such as the different moves in Style's evolution phase shift) in isolation, out of sight from the peer group.. and seated.

-On your first out of sight isolation from the peer group, only progress the kino for a few minutes (as far as you can for that time period) and then REJOIN the peer group. In most cases, you want to keep the peer group feeling alright and comfortable with the fact that your friend is safe with you. Win over the friends (work them) when you come back and rejoin them... then isolate again a little later, and progress kino more. Each time you isolate out of sight from the peer group, you are creating/structuring Escalation Windows. Why wait for the windows when you can create them yourself(?).

-I've seen a lot of guys botch the makeout move (going in for the kiss and the girl pulls away)... even a lot of the best guys. I think you shouldn't leave it to chance if you can eliminate that. Instead try to get her to close her eyes and then go in and make out. Also, don't telegraph that the make out is important to you.. otherwise she'll withhold it from you. Intimate hugs.. bite her neck some.. lick her face, etc. The makeout is just part of it.. it's not a goal of yours (if she thinks it is, she'll withhold it from you). One of my wings uses

PUA: "Do you like magic?"
HB: "sure" (or whatever positive.... need positive compliance momentum)
PUA: "Awesome... close your eyes"
HB: [closes eyes]
PUA: [moves head in and makes out with her]

-I know Gunwitch taught sexual state with some different pieces/tips (closeness, bedroom eyes, lots of kino, slow and low speech), but one of the ones that I really believe he was missing is SMILING. So do that when you want to phase shift her and get her horny. If you're ever doing sexual state and the girl is feeling a little creeped out, this is the reason why. Smile during sexual state for consistency.

-Cinder

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