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Trying to scale, it's been really hard, but Iām gaining more traction with some interesting changes. Spending between $700-$1000 profitably on FB a day just so nobody is misled. This is like all I do and based on my own tests and spend on my businesses.
It's annoying when I hear advice for ads, but they leave out super important details and you have no idea who to do after a certain point, so in this guide I tried to cover everything. Please let me know if I missed anything.
CAMPAIGN LEVEL: Ad set budget conversion campaign
Structure: 3 campaigns in total. 1 TOF, 1 Retargeting/MOF/BOF, 1 DPA Catalog Sales.
TOF = Top of Funnel. BOF = Bottom of Funnel. DPA = Dynamic Product Ads meaning the product that this person lands on will be delivered to them if its in the catalog you have connected to your DPA ad.
ADSET LEVEL
Pixel: Set up properly using the FB app if you're using Shopify. Configure your events from most important to least important: Purchase > Add Payment Info > Initiate Checkout > View Content > Search.
You might be wondering how I have 6 events there? Well I disabled the āvalue optimizationā option so I get 4 more slots and ever since, things have been doing much better. I also convinced my buddy to do the same, and things also got better for him. This will make it so you canāt use value optimized adsets just as a heads up. Do this at your own risk, but I am only seeing better results. I would test it no matter what though, because you can switch it back after 72 hours. Thatās my opinion.
Conversion event: Main pixel Purchase
Budget: $20
Start time: Next day at 2 AM
Exclude: Customer list from Klayviyo, 30 day PUR, 30 day site visitors, 30 day all page engagers
Locations: USA / Canada first, then scale to Europe/AU after you see results
Age: I do 18-54, before FB took the ability to see data based on specific age groups, I noticed 55 audience was much more expensive and I didnāt see great results over a lot of spend. I used to just do 18 but after seeing that I donāt anymore. The older age group might be great for you though.
Gender: Whatever works best for your product. I do both for unisex products, but you can single them out if you like, I think more options for FB is better.
Targeting: I have been selecting detailed targeting expansion as my one ad account has gotten an update that makes it so you canāt remove it. I donāt want to have a bunch of successful ads then FB switches it and performance dies. I am selecting very broad interests for the most part that are related to the product. Some of the interests are not related at all though. Think outside the box and just try stuff, once I targeted nurses with a product that had nothing to do with them and it was my best adset, I have countless examples, so always test. I don't even pay attention to audience size as everything is expanded and hitting 100m people anyways.
Placement: Auto
Optimization for Ad Delivery: Conversions
Attribution setting: 7 days after clicking or 1 day after viewing, this is a new change for me that I did when I changed over the value optimization. I always did a 1 day click as my products are typically purchased within one day. I know it doesnāt make sense, but what does on FB? Lol. Test it and see if they perform better, Iām seeing mine do better.
ADS LEVEL
Tip: For the ads I will share a little thing I do. I have a campaign called āmake ads hereā where I have one adset 65-65 age incase you do age sensitive products and forget, with all my ad templates in that one adset. So I changed the image and the link in the ad section and itās done in 2 seconds! Copy the ad ID from your Page Posts section under the proper page and use that under existing ads when making new ads. The reason you do this is to maintain social proof and ease of use.
How many ads per adset? Iām doing 1-3 as all my budgets are at $20 or if you're going to spend more per adset you can go higher, you just donāt want 10 ads in an adset with a $20 budget then it gets split 10 ways and youāll never have enough data. To add to this Iām seeing 1 ad per adset work well, collection ads do great here. What I mean by collection is that I do a single image with many different products, then send them to a collection page showing those products first, with many under. More options can help increase conversion rate, especially if you got DPA ads going, then they will get targeted with the specific things they looked at in that collection.
I will make another post about how I make my ads, thatās a loaded topic, same with retargeting.
SCALING AND OTHER COMMON QUESTIONS
Scaling: What Iāve been doing is taking my winning ads and creating 10 $20 ad sets and giving them all different new interests. Iāve gotten to $1000 a day profitably doing this so far and Iām still going, itās looking good! Next is to scale those into different countries, take the exact same ones in the USA that are working and hit Canada, then I normally target specific places in Europe, but recently Iāve just been going with Europe and Iām seeing good results. After that hit other countries that might work for you, I like AUS. If your wondering about LLAs they haven't been working to well for me, the best one was a 10% LLA based on all page engagers. I will keep testing them here and there, but it seems like interests are doing better now and it makes sense.
I have been very hesitant to do this on winning ad sets, but I think I am going to start soon, I haven't yet, but it's been recommended to me many times by reliable sources. lol. Increase everything thatās working every 3 days by 20%. I know, I know, 20% of $20 is $4, brutally slow scaling. But you know whatās worse than slow scaling? No scaling and losing money every time you launch anything over a dumb $20 budget. Haha. Slow and steady, and if you have like 30 $20 adsets $120 a day doesn't seem so bad.
How much do I spend before I kill an ad? I do $30 - $40 per ad if the stats donāt look good at all, Iāll do a max of $60 without a sale if stats are looking good. This will depend on your product cost / AOV as well. Mine cost $21 - $40 with an AOV of $65 to $70. The reason why you should wait is that FB will report sales up to 72 hours later. On top of that, they wonāt attribute it to that day, but the day when FB decides to show the data. So you can launch something on Monday, kill it Tuesday and see a conversion Wednesday, madness I know. Also while we are on the topic, FB will also only report back the highest value event that happened, what I mean by this is this? If someone comes to your store's home page, goes to a blog post, goes to a product page, adds to cart, checks out and adds payment info then leaves, the only event that will be sent back to the ads manager is the āadd payment infoā event. Thatās why FB stats make no sense half the time right now, and why you need multiple tracking solutions, in my opinion anyways.
How I kill adsets: So when I have 3 ads in each adset, I wonāt kill the adset if itās failing, I look at the ads and kill only the ads that are doing bad and let everything else keep running. This has been working really well and Iām keeping my spend higher by not killing as much and the other adsets typically make up for the failures. If all 3 ads are looking really bad, I might kill it early though. For single ad adsets, I kill them how I mentioned above.
Iām pretty sure this covers it all, or Iām drawing a blank, but please let me know if you want some clarification on anything, or a better explanation, I will do my best to answer you! Thanks for getting this far and I hope I provided you with some value! You may have seen my last post, but that's how fast things are changing all the time. Always testing presents better ad buying opportunities so I'm going to take them and in this case share them.
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You donāt need to read this part, but I really like sharing this kind of stuff, like who spends their Friday making a FB guide? Me apparently. Haha. Iāve been putting this off forever, but I want to make a Youtube channel where I talk about ads every morning and what Iām doing to scale, new apps that are making me money, how Iām setting up post purchase upsells and all the tests Iāve done, ect, ect, or even a discord group where I do that could be cool. Doing posts like this are great, but things change so quickly I might be doing something completely different next week and I feel bad leaving the outdated info up, like people are spending their hard earned money.
I donāt have anything to sell, but Iām just super passionate about this stuff and I would love to help some more people change their lives. I donāt have anything made, but just an upvote or a message/comment of what you would like to learn about would be so appreciated, just so I know I wonāt be spending all this time for like 3 people to see. I always felt like no one wanted to hear what I have to say cause Iām not maintaining 10k in spend a day or whatever crazy number, but now Iām realizing there are so many of us trying to get to that point and hopefully I can help. Thanks for reading this if you did <3
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