Hey y'all. I just wanted to stop in again and say thanks, and to say that this seems like a truly wonderful community. I came here earlier this week looking for help choosing a pair of pants for my fiance, and I was welcomed very warmly, and was given more advice than I could ever have expected. Everyone helped me come to a consensus (after a long debate between olive and charcoal strong darts, it seems like Charcoal is going to win the day, for those wondering). 

It is truly incredible to see a group of people discussing things like fabric weights, fabric content, stretch, the differences between magnetic or snap closures, drape, (#x-or-y-back-gate), and the like, and truly it makes me wish Outlier made clothes for women. There are no women's brands where the founders do an hour long IG live to talk about fabrics and fit and texture. 90% of the advice you'll find for women's clothing is go to anne taylor and get Bjorn boots or manolos, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it just doesn't feel very personal in the end. And it certainly doesn't feel very special or thoughtful compared to the kind of clothes you guys pick out for yourselves. 

I genuinely learned a lot just by browsing. Obviously I adore my fiance, but it's easy to roll my eyes when I hear him say that he is going to return a perfectly acceptable pair of jeans because they have a 6.5" leg opening vs a 6" leg opening. But I am starting to get it. What comes off as obsessive or nit-picky is actually thoughtful. I genuinely understand why he likes Outlier clothes—because small details like that are really taken into consideration. In a weird way, this has made me understand my fiance a little more deeply—it has given me insight into why he spends so much time researching things he wants or likes, why he takes so much pleasure in curating the stuff that goes into his (and now our) life, or why waiting for the right object matters, rather than getting a watered down version of what you wanted.

Another huge learning experience had to do with the sticker shock associated with outlier. I had previously understood how fashion items, like an Acne beanie, could cost a lot, but $200 for pants that look like chinos, or clothes that are meant to look largely non-descript (I mean that in a good way), that was confusing. 

But take the bandana. When you break it down it's an illustration of how Outlier actually seems to charge almost rock bottom considering what they produce. When I saw the bandana I was like, "Holy shit, a $100 bandana? I wonder what on earth makes it worth $100, I bet nothing." But that was a whole adventure. I was so wrong. I dug in, and saw the sticker price on a bolt of polartech alpha, and then Swiss fabric, which I gather is considered some of the best in the world, and then New Zealand merino (which apparently is extra expensive not just because of quality but because most of it comes from farms where the sheep do not go through a pretty brutal process called mulesing.) And the closure are german magnetic snaps! Not to mention all the time it took for them to figure out how to put it together, which fabrics worked, which didn't, import the fabrics, make the item, ship it, do a photoshoot. After all that, I am amazed that Outlier charges just $100. Suddenly $100 seems low. It makes you appreciate clothing. It makes eye-rolling people like me leave the site wanting said bandana and dreaming of ways to incorporate it into their wardrobe.  

All this to say, thank you for all your help, keep doing what you are doing. Hopefully one day there'll be women's clothing made by outlier too.