Wow! This has brought me a lot of insight

I didn’t realize until you said it that Nathan does get manipulated a lot.

I always saw him as so strong and popular that no way someone could manipulate him, but looks like it happens pretty often

And as another comment mentioned, even Taylor manipulated him but he does have his limits and will stand up for himself or Haley eventually

But your comment lacks insight on what Haley is going through and why she responds the way she does

A lot of times in this sub, anything Haley does is crucified, but when Nathan does something, his actions get justified away

This is an example of what I said before.

Also I didn’t say you lacked insight. I said your comment doesn’t address it all

All your comments focus on Nathan good and Haley bad for doing the same things.

Nathan sat on the couch and stopped parenting completely. Haley was using babysitters even though Nathan was at home

When you’re a parent, you still have to be there. Even when you’re depressed and dealing with mental illness

That’s the responsibility of being a parent. But I see for Nathan you justify it and for Haley you compare that to her yelling at Jamie with the baking scene

Perfect example of crucify Haley when she’s depressed or for how she deals when Nathan is depressed

But Nathan he’s justified when he’s depressed and so on so forth

You also fail to realize that Nathan got into a fight that lead to his broken dream

Again his wrong isn’t addressed

It’s always Haley’s bad, and poor Nathan had to deal with her

Very little accountability when it comes to Nathan

My exact words were “your comment lacks insight”

Please go reread instead of codswalloping.

You’re defensive and what you say is all that