Exactly! It’s the “all around build” and low iq players who mad. Every other year you can mindlessly dribble w no thought process. This year they make you actually think before you act like it should be.

No they didn’t I’m still ripping dummies

I wouldn’t mind an interceptor nerf it wouldn’t unbalance the game. But nerfing on ball will give pgs the advantage over locks they’ve had for yeaars

I had that problem for a long time and avoided rec. only played park w randoms and had a god awful win %. Once I met a few good people I started running rec with a squad I knew, next thing you know my win percent was top tier. People can blame the game all they want but it’s a great balanced game. And there’s tons of things you can learn running with a team that has good communication

I don’t get how y’all pgs keep saying that shit. My off ball player has looooow handles and I draw tons of fouls. I’ll literally grab a rebound and just post up instead of pass to draw a foul🤣. When I run pg or the dude I run with plays pg we get hell of fouls unless it’s a cooomp lock then they’ll get a few plucks

Get good. I grab boards and don’t move. Tons of foul calls or the defender just swiping air

If I throw it with Y (or triangle) I get a nice ark on the ball and it’s harder to snag mid air And if I have someone cut I like bounce passes if there’s an open lane that way someone spamming x can’t fly towards it and get a steal

Cuz most pgs think they badass when they do dem crazy dribbles and don’t actually know how to dribble to protect the ball. Any comp pg or iso scorer isn’t fazed by the steals this year. Just weeds out the bums

But I do think interceptor is kinda op. But at the same time people are running 99 steal and not 99 pass acc.

On point 👌 people don’t realize just holding the ball is extremely effective fr. I just gotta give my input bc I don’t want the devs to just see the whinny 2K players complain and unbalance the game where locks are just here to contest shots from “dribble gods”

Yeah if a 99 steal lock gets contact on you there’s a good chance they’ll get a poke animation gotta keep space. The move to avoid that is a moving behind the back. Try it out when a lock is blitzing you and you’ll fly past them and have an open lane or an open man. Don’t try a cross over or anything they can stick a hand out on. Behind the backs work wonders for me in a 1 on 1 situation when I’m bringing the ball up court. But like I said if they double you up have the second ball handler ready

Look I’m giving you free game rn…. If you get a pass and you have a lock on you don’t just start dribbling. Play smart. Do a jab step to behind the back. Having the ball in your hands before you dribble is when you think about the move you finna make don’t just try to run past them without a set up ooooor you getting plucked. I do this on my 40 ball handle. If I can do it on that build you 70 handle players should be fine. Y’all just play dumb. Adapt

I have 40 ball handle on my off ball build I dont put the ball on the floor if I have a lock on me lmao.

Yeah I like the idea but then I think offense would be way op. As of right now blow bys are easy af and finishing at the rim is almost guaranteed unless you’re running directly into a center (even then timing a contact it’s going in). So adding complex layers to steals would need to be followed up by a buff to clamping animations or something to keep balance.

Steals is strong against weak dribblers. 2K lab even did a test on it after I made this thread. With gold unpluckable it’s only a 12% chance to get plucked. HOF is even less. Y’all getting plucked bc of bad dribbling. No matter what level y’all have unpluckable if you play dumb in front of a lock ya gonna pay the price.

Finishing is even more OP and barely anyone complains about that tho

Lol when I play rec and the other team is comp there’s gonna be atleast one 99 steal lock if not 2, every time. I can post my damn 2K card if you’d like frfr 😂 if I’m on my 55 BH build I do nooot dribble to get open unless it’s a drive off a jab step with the ball away from the defender. When I get a board or steal I don’t start dribbling I post up and toss that bitch down court for an assist unless I have a wide open lane

Edit: my ball handle is literally 35 lmao. It’s my pass acc that’s 55 😂

They ain’t randoms if you know their builds, win %, and are in a party before you walk into rec. Every time I went into rec last year w randoms for a good laugh I got paired with a whole team of slashers. Go find a team that needs the build you have. And the people who throw up looking for posts will actually pass to you for open shots bc they wanna win and not just put up contested shots.

Yeah ones court is a free for all. On my lock most bigs are hard to strip tho if they use post up. If I get into a good position to snag a steal I leave the lane wide open. But that’s always been ones court. Good bigs run that shit.

Defense is fine only people who disagree want easy buckets and an unbalanced game. My ball handling is 55 on my main and unless its a 99 steal lock I’ll draw a foul way more then I’ll get plucked

Ever try a lob pass works wonders for me especially when I have someone in the paint and the defender isn’t in position and is tryna bate a steal

Lmao bro good way to tell me you have no bb iq without saying it. I play pg about half my games in park 3s and rec. go to my replies to other comments and you’ll see exactly how I run pg and avoid turnovers. And how I don’t get ripped when I’m playing off ball with a 40 ball handling 55 pass acc

If the bump steal is the pg recklessly dribbling into someone I don’t mind the turnover. And cross body steals are logical when a lock makes heavy contact with the pg in a clamp up situation.

That might be a strength thing and the pg hitting into the defender. Strength on my build helps out a ton this year in random situations. Pgs can’t just push straight thru my lock but my lock is built to guard centers too

Idk my lock has post lockdown on cuz I’m a hybrid and guard 1-5 haha. I’ll still pluck yo shit if you have low post control 😂😂

Was there contact prior to the steal? That’s the only reach across steals I see is when the defender makes solid contact and reaches when he makes the handler stumble a bit

Yeah I can see where your coming from on interceptor. Glove keeps bad/over/low iq dribblers in check. Interceptor is a little cheesy

I’m not talking interceptions. Idc about those they can get nerfed. My pass is super low and mine don’t get stolen too much, I also don’t pass a crazy amount tho so I have no say on that shit. But on ball steals are fine. Good dribblers are being rewarded tho they don’t get stripped like that, it’s only low iq dribblers who get 10 TOs from on ball steals and complain.

Bro just get good or don’t play pg then. Good pgs us locks still can’t handle. If someone’s bag is stupid deep I can get 0 steals and they already made a bucket by the time my reach animation is done

I’ve played against as a pg and played as one. I’ve got 10 steals on low iq 90 ball handlers. And I’ve gotten 0 on ball steals from high iq 70 overalls

I did read it most of those problems are bc you play w randoms. You need a team or you gonna lose. You know how rare it is to get matchmaked with a team of high iq players

Go on the game club people always put up posts needing players… and nah if I can’t find a team of decent win %s I stay out of rec. I have one dude I’m actually cool with and we run with people we find on Xbox 2k23 game club. My win rate in rec rn is 100% 😅😅

Sounds like you play with randoms. That’s a big no. If they double press on an inbound have a 2 guard ready to bring ball up. And if they double you read it and pass before they both press up and steal it. It’s like real b ball. When teams full court press there’s more then one option down the court to pass too.

When I play pg I get minimum TOs cuz one lock can’t pluck me when I protect the ball with my body. And if they double up on me that’s a free assist. I feel like if they need steals it’ll just make playing pg less iq based. Which is the whole point of playing pg.