She’s whiny, yes, but he was foul to her for how he went about the Nurys thing. You don’t lay in bed naked/ cuddling with your ex, talking about still loving them, and then make out and cuddle with someone else in front of them. Had none of that happpened i’d be totally on his side but alas.

Nowhere did I say he owes her anything. When you treat people like Jordan treated Tori though it says more about him than her, whether he’s with her or not you don’t toy with your exes feelings and then start hooking up with others in front of them. And If you do that you don’t get to play victim bc people (and your ex) are rightfully saying that’s fucked up.

Two things can be true, he was within his rights to do whatever he wanted and he can still be considered an absolute asshole for how he handled things. I think he was an absolute asshole for how he handled things, but technically didn’t do anything “wrong”.

What your are describing isn’t the same and you know it lol. Dude I would even be on his side if he had just acknowledged her feelings and made an effort to not do it around her. It was quite obvious he wanted to rub it in her face and when called on it he started talking about that’s why he left her to begin with. Dudes an asshole like always lol

I’d say yes considering they were talking about old feelings and seeing each other after the show. Where you and I agree is this is very similarly bad compared to what she did when they first split, and Jordan had every right to be hurt bc he thought they might be talking about getting back together and she hooked up with Fess. I’d say this is exactly the same and why he was being so pointed in their argument about how it must feel to watch, bc he wanted revenge back on her for doing it the first time. It’s for sure petty and mean to do to someone you care about. That’s all I’m getting at.