Besides Reddit, what other place to meet single men and couples?

Wife and I are wondering if there’s any other places and apps to meet people. We aren’t having any luck on here, unfortunately the caliber of men that messages just cutting it, lack of respect, can’t hold a conversation, some don’t take the time to read the entire post, some feel entitled lol which is hilarious to me. Clearly I know this is Reddit and being in the lifestyle is about sex, clearly but wow some just don’t even try to have a conversation, it’s “hey wanna fuck” , “hey let’s link up” or my favorite worst one liners lol “dm me” really , I’m sure that has never worked and I know for a fact that has never worked in public. No wonder there’s not many real women on besides the onlyfans ladies , I’m sure they got tired got tired of the caveman talk. I’m not here to bash the men on here, but damn seems like no one knows how to hold a conversation. There’s have to be another platforms to meet people, anyone knows any?