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To give context beforehand my wife (Carla) and I are Christians. Still somewhat newlyweds but we have been friends a LONG time. We’ve been best friends pretty much since the beginning of our friendship. She has been tight with her female ace/best friend (Maribel) for about the same amount of time her and I have been friends (10 years/since high school— I was the male best friend). Before getting together Carla and I never messed around although my previous immature attempts at winning her over failed. Carla is territorial, not jealous, and is not bisexual at all, and is not until this day. Now I know women endearingly call each other different names that could otherwise be derogatory or used for a significant other/loved one (bitch, bae, boo, honey, etc.). Carla and Maribel’s thing was that they used to refer to one another other as their wife, before Carla and I got together. That never bothered me but Carla and I mutually agreed to stop that out of respect for our relationship.
I’m still giving past history/relationship dynamics context.
We also have Jessica, my girlfriend from about 10 years ago - we’ve known each other since jr high, there was a small spark back then, and then we considered each other high school sweethearts since we had truly dated for a while in HS but did more flirting with each other tough after breaking up). I met Carla at a function and got her number so that’s how we’re acquainted. I didn’t go to school with Carla and Maribel. Carla and I built a really strong friendship early on and kept it that way although I would put my bid in from time to time. Now Carla did have a pet name for me when we first became friends (this was jr high for me before Jessica (same grade) and I actually dated in HS- my wife is older) and that name stuck until we dated. It was something you’d normally call your spouse or a southern term of endearment, of course if I tell, that completely out myself if one of them or someone else who knows enough details would know. You can imagine how it made Jessica feel when I mentioned she inadvertently picked the same pet name that Carla gave me when Jessica and I were dating in our 20s. I just felt like it would be a weird thing not to mention. If you knew Carla then you heard of me by what she called me. To wrap up the relationship dynamic Im a ride or die, honest, loyal friend and now spouse (boyfriend back then) Im not with the funny business. Yes I do have porn in my feed (comments/likes), for those that think you’ll have sex whenever you get the urge even when you’re worth your spouse, think again. Our sex life is good last time I checked, we get it in regularly and I don’t stare at women in public or flirt when I’m alone.
!!!GUYS SKIP THIS PART!!! Sometimes your dick is hard as fuck and you need to look at what appeals to you if you can’t get it. My shit will be rock solid again after busting 3/4 nuts, just give me a little time hah. I appreciate the female anatomy and also perv out on the net from time to time. Never in a derogatory manner. For context I first stumbled porn at the age of 5 and I knew from then I liked GROWN WOMEN. I was never molested or sexually assaulted. Hopefully this helps the women understand this. I was never a dogg in the sense of slanging dick everywhere but growing up every female I was visually attracted to was an eligible partner I wanted to have sex with (18 when I turned 18) unless she was related to someone I had a close relationship with.
A past visit that made me think deeper:
In our early/mid 20s while dating Jessica, Carla brought Maribel when she came to visit me. Carla and I honestly never really saw each other or hung out because of the distance, and we weren’t really old enough or had it like that to drive. This was my first time meeting and from my memory hearing about Maribel. My third time seeing Carla if we include the first time we met. Remember Carla is my female best friend until marriage and is now my best friend. During the visit Jessica was present at my place too. I think the visit was a random thing they could do since they were in the area. Carla and I were on our own agendas in during this time period but the bond was still solid. I wanted to introduce Jessica and Carla since we were legit friends and since Jessica was already at my house it seemed cool to me. (I was still living at home during this time with 0 alone time at the house)
That previous paragraph is to bring context to a previous conversation Carla and I had, jokingly, about the time she met Jessica (follow me please I’m serious — this conversation happened while dating Carla). A random conversation about the first time we had sex led us to the top of her meeting Jessica. It was about how if we would’ve had sex back in high school/or before I was with Jessica,(she really enjoyed our first time having sex) and how she would’ve been tempted to have sex with me on the patio if she was like that and Jessica feeling uncomfortable due to the pet name and Carla’s looks. That day she had on running shirts and a t shirt, simple. Carla had sat outside with me while I rolled up (420) during her visit. During our conversation about that visit (I’m Dating Carla at the time) She was jokingly making a statement in the manner of “If I wanted to I could/would have done it”. As in, if she wanted to have sex with me she could have made it happen by pulling her shorts to the side. It was just Carla and I outside, while Maribel and Jessica talked inside. Maribel had reassured her that we never messed around and that I secretly was not the biological father of Carla’s son, which I am not but he’s still my son. Again we didn’t do anything except have a wholesome conversation between friends. I told my wife she would not have been able to pull that off. She replied that if she was on that type of time she would’ve tipped off Maribel to keep Jessica busy, while we had a quickie on the patio or she would’ve set it up to where she would’ve trapped me in the bathroom. You know, run interference, pull a real home girl move, guiding the cock instead of blocking it, I’m sure you get the picture haha.
End of the past visit and the dirty hypothetical conversation.
Carla and Maribel’s friendship: My wife and Maribel have a tight relationship as girlfriends do and talk about such “topics”. My wife has told me she used to talk about sex with her GFs when she dated in the past but she told me she does not out of respect for our marriage, her friends marriages (since almost all of us are married). In some cases that it also give a Segway to allow other women to come after your man and my wife believes that as well but it’s more of a respect for our relationship and those we used to discuss these things with. In short telling your girlfriends about your husband’s good sex is probably not the best idea no matter how close you are as friends or even family. I agree because I’m that way with my guys, plus I don’t want to hear about another man’s dick shit was cool to hear about in high school and college I only remember guys mentioning details when it was an EXPERIENCE. The day after we had sex Carla and Maribel hung out and she said Maribel asked if we had sex. Carla told me she didn’t verbally respond and tried to deflect by saying something like I’m not giving any details, but she couldn’t hold a straight face. So Maribel got the answer I assume she was hoping for, as in celebrating for your friend to have good sex if they do tell you. Maribel has never made pass at me that I recognized. And I’m never really clean cut and fresh when she comes by, I’m usually in need of a chop and or working on the car, yard, or party prepping. So I might be missing signs if there are any. We do have each other’s number and text cordially as Maribel’s son is the same age as ours. They’re great up together and are godmother to each other’s sons. I’ve had to ask her to help me with a gift for my wife and other communication is about picking up the kids if they stay over or whatever.
It’s important I note that Maribel ended up being my wife’s maid of honor. She also came out of the closet (femme) to my wife while her and I were dating early on(4/5years ago). My wife told me she felt uncomfortable but always remained a true friend, I also encouraged her to keep their friendship as they were before. When you know who you’re dealing with and see the signs so you can set boundaries if I think someone is being slick. We’ve hung out with her and invited her over to hang out etc and still do. Even plan on taking a road trip/vacation with our family, Maribel and her son(this is their idea I prefer flying to have more time at the destination). I don’t know how their conversation went about Maribel coming out but that’s all I got from my wife. Maribel is either bisexual or heterosexual now, and from what I know trying to do the right thing in life (Staying in church as a general statement- work/finance/living/etc isn’t an issue for Maribel). She’s had a couple of bad dating experiences since telling Carla but again she doesn’t push herself on me or my wife in any way.
SHE FLICKED THE TIP……… on accident: Current day
So Maribel came over about a month or so ago (2024) this is now about 8/9 years from when Carla and Maribel came to meet Jessica, for time reference. While Maribel was leaving (is just her and my household family present) everyone is saying good bye, and giving hugs, and we all ended up in close proximity, like bend your elbow some and touch someone close but not huddled up. After Maribel and I hugged, it was a slight side hug/arm over the shoulder (respectful) her arm came from around my back as she was turning to her left (she’s on my left), her hand accidentally brushed across my dick. We all have kids so we know what genitalia feels like when you touch it and I would like to say even if you touch someone’s ass, tits, dick or clit from the palm/finger tip side. Even if it’s an accident if you know where your hand passed by. I don’t know if it was the back of her hand or the side of her index finger swinging but it brushed me. it was subtle enough to know it was an accident yet hard enough where it did hurt but rather sent that jolt of electricity through my body. It was closer to the impact of a soft flick to me but 100% an accident and not noticeable by eye unless you happened to catch the random moment. It made my dick jump as it was unexpected and I began to get a semi hard on, it was growi g but not wasn’t out of control. During and after it made me think in an unbiased manner did she realize she touched my dick because what a hand feels when it brushes quickly across can be different from what the subject feels. As in a person may not recognize they touched something specific or could have touched it unless you know your hand was in that general area of the subject touched. If your hands are at your side and you’re standing next to others it’s a good chance your hands are at an elevation level of the goodies is all I’m trying to say. Someone’s butt might get touched or the old age accidental hand bump.
Since then I can’t completely forget about it and wonder if she realized what happened. It’s not necessarily something you’d want to bring attention to with apologizing if it happens quick enough between the two people.
Open relationship/threesome: Now the “what if” about an open relationship with her or sex is in my head. This is because of the described eagerness for her to know how sex went with Carla the first time. Women have good memories too. More recently Maribel came over again to help decorate for a party and we were hanging things on the wall. I’m taller and was holding something up so they could see and I’ve always had big legs and butt. Not something I’m proud of or embarrassed about but I’m not gassed on the fact that females like my ass. Nothing goes in and nothing touches it. I once swiped my fingers up a chicks pussy lips in high school when she grabbed my ass while walking down the hall. She only had in pajama shorts. In short the attention from women is Kind of like the big titty chick that knows guys look at her. While im full wing span extended on the wall trying to hold something high enough and even they peek back behind me to check the level but from my experience I have an idea of what women are snicking about when they’re behind me at certain times. They got dead silent and then busted out laughing. It definitely could’ve been something else but my wife has told me before that that they are perverts as friends. I wonder if my wife caught Maribel looking at my ass, they caught each other staring or both were thinking the same thing at that moment. They are goofy but remember they used to call each other “wifey”. She also bought my wife a raunchy gift for their bachelorette weekend. I don’t have suspicion about that weekend but the gift was edible and in a certain shape if you catch my drift, so Maribel is a freak too. While I’m practically assuming the position on the wall, trying to hold the decorations. It’s like were they just being goofy or did they have a moment of I caught you staring at my man’s ass and genuinely liked what they were looking at or was it like a moment of Maribel giving Carla props. I was quiet and acted as if I didn’t realize what happened.
I’m questioning this because when I was with Jessica in my 20s she had a college roommate (apartment) and she was fine too but I never made passes at her or anything I dont play games like that. Jessica and her roommate went to the grocery store one day and this is when Live Photos first came out for apple. Jessica sends me a Live Photo of her roommate walking in the store from behind. It’s not like she was trying to show me something in the store. This camera was centered on that back and ass in those black spandex shorts and white tank. I thought it was a trap so my response was confused/generic. I definitely played that Live Photo capture over MANY times. Her Latina roommate was tight and right. Jessica commented on her ass in her reply but it wasn’t a clear cut comment . At that point I’m treading lightly since Jessica was territorial as well but mentioned she’d let a girl eat her out but I do not recall us talking about a threesome. That may have been my first chance and I don’t know if this is a second. I’m not trying to push for it but I’m not trying to miss a first class flight. The destination definitely matters too. Meaning I know there’s consequences for each action and I would not want to invite something into my marriage that would break it up (end up in the wrong destination). Carla and I are still working through typical marriage stuff and it’s not perfect by any means. We’re committed in our action and our word but I’m conflicted from that one flick.
A true war with the flesh but again I’ll never make the first move towards Maribel or actively cheat on my wife. Some problem would call this cheating.
Drop the sex part I would still be in a tight spot morally as a Christian if they wanted to have an open relationship within Carla and mine’s marriage, with Maribel. In the flesh in it against it. Maribel is attractive and by my standards is gf material with wife potential. Let’s say my wife and I never got together, there’s definitely a chance Maribel and I could’ve dated per my wife telling me they somewhat entertained the idea of Maribel and I dating or that when she met me that she would be interested in talking to me if I wasn’t in a relationship or something along the lines of if she wasn’t friends with my wife she wouldn’t have worried about me dating Jessica and went for what she wanted. I could’ve easily asked for Carla to put me in with Maribel, mainly because I never saw them/her or had another connection to Maribel.
If you got this far tell me what you think. I can take jokes so a few trolls are cool but I am seriously trying to get this out of my head. You damn right I’m not confident enough to talk about this with my wife or anyone else. Maybe one other person but I haven’t got to that with them yet.
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