I'm 75kgs - dosed 200mgs 4MMC 120mgs crystal MDMA (both bombed oral) - redosed 250mgs 4MMC and half a pill (supposedly 200mgs pressed MDMA, so lets say 100mgs MDMA) about 90 mins in, just when I was over the come up peak of the first dose... it was very nice roll for me but had a bit of semi-stim dick through the middle couple of hours. No drama though, just played around with each other with a hyper-sensitive semi erect cock until it passed. Rolled balls for a good 5-6 hrs and a couple of beautiful hours of slow come down afterglow.

Oh yeah, 20mgs Cialis the day before and 20mgs on the day. It certainly helps, but you have to deal with the "semi" through the peak.

The missus is 48kgs - 150 mgs 4MMC 80 mgs crystal MDMA, she redosed about the same amount as her first at the same time as me at roughly 90 mins or so.

This was good for her and minimal comedown on the days after. Often, any higher doses knock her sideways for days but this was good. She enjoyed the headspace and had plenty rushy moments through the peak and after.

All in all - we got it almost right for this one.

“Let them eat cake” they said,

So I did 😻

Thanks, gor a heap more plus some gifs so will post another time

Thanks - it made me happy for sure!!

I think it came from “ouch!”

They do a bunch of UV stuff

“Let them eat cake” they said,

So I did 😻

happy and safe rolls

Equal measures 😈🤩😻🤪

will do some research - might be an addition.

What's the 6apb buzz comparative to?

Thanks - its actually a cheap projector from amazon, just throwing our favourite porn on a bare wall.

Thanks Drakki, but possibly not quite as much as I did.. 😈

It most certainly was that!

Thanks 🤩

It is mephedrone - a crystal powder that absolutely stinks of chemicals.

It is like coke and MDMA had a love child…. A bit of the buzz of both but not the same as either in their own right.

Look it up on pychonautwiki It has plenty info there.

Thanks 🙏

I probably did it back in the days when the UK rave scene was awash with Dutch pills of varying combos and concentrations. Some were super speedy, others were pretty god damn trippy. It was a fucking crap shoot for what you got but usually ended well regardless!

never tried pure MDA - but understand it is a speedier, less ectactgenic version of the classic M

For me, the 4MMC amps up the horniness several notches. It is a far more animalistic feeling, just pure filthy lust and desire to lick, bite, suck and fuck each other senseless. I end up getting a bit mild rough and BDSM with her, and she loves it!!

For her, she says it opens her up to all of the above... she talks pure filth while rolling and I can testify that she gets ridiculously wet, and hardly any kink is off limits.

MDMA is always a nice roll, we get horny as fuck for sure - but the 4MMC just amps it up to "Rocco Sifreddi" stylee.

The downside is 4MMC is almost guaranteed to give you stim dick in higher doses, and it is the higher doses that give the best and most filthy minded head space. Even ED meds don't help much while you are peaking, but still plenty fun to be had. That's why we combo with MDMA, which is a longer roll - and we get the several hours of afterglow.

Also, for the record we always bomb our doses now, as 4MMC is caustic as hell and really hurts and probably damages the nose when snorted.

Cool, I will give it a try next roll 😎

There are so many variables to it that I don’t think it is possible to find the perfect roll experience from start to finish, and particularly the days / weeks afterwards. Going heavy fucking hurts for a while after, especially the missus.

We have tried throwing a lot of the most common combos together at some stage… adding GHB, 2CB.. even Ketamine.

Higher doses… Lower doses… Start with this, redose with that etc.

They all have their place sometime “during” but it is always a trade off and we don’t roll often enough for all the trial and error connotations. We are about 12 years in, 3-4 times a year and still looking for that perfect night!

Some nights in there that give the fondest memories, none I truly regret and would take any of them over never doing another again. 😈😎🤩