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Remarkable conversation by Noam Chomisky
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Listen to Naom chomisky talk about Israel - palastine in 2002. Still very similiar but the only differnce is that the occupation has now been going on for 70 years:

This is the 35th year of a harsh brutal and vicious occupation supported unilaterally by the united states constant terror and atrocities.

Suppose Palestinians say well we're under terrorist attack for 35 years therefore we have a right to carry out suicide bombings do you accept this does anybody accept it?

Then how come everyone accepts the israeli claim to be doing it which is much weaker claim because after all there's no symmetry in this situation. They are the military occupiers Palestine isn't occupying irreal and this isn't just started now it's going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AJlfW0g2rk

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You responded to a photo but didn’t answer the question I asked. Why have the Palestinian people chosen to be represented by Hamas and Fatah?

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Not for these people, they never recognized Israel. Which is why they use the slogan “from the River to the sea”

They do not consider any part of Israel legitimate. They do not consider Israel legitimate. So for them the “occupation” begins in 48 and that even Christian Palestinians, Druze and Islamic Israelis are all occupiers.

They simply want to turn Israel into another failed state like Zimbabwe or South Africa. “Liberation” of those countries did wonders for their populations.

They are free to now live in starvation and high crime, failing infrastructure and quasi-dictatorship.

Imagine a Palestinian state run at best by the kleptocrats of the Palestinian Authority and at worst by a terrorist organization like Hamas.

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Your persuasive argument is limited when you answer questions with questions instead of answering your debate opponent. You would lose points for this in any genuine rhetorical debate. But we both know you’re not here to persuade, your heart to propagandize. So you won’t/can’t answer the question as asked.

“Why did the Palestinian people chose to be represented by Hamas and Fatah?”

Or maybe they didn’t chose…?

after all there hasn’t been an election in either Gaza or the West Bank since Gaza elected Hamas.

You clearly support the electoral will of the Palestinian people.

Does Hamas represent the liberal legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people? Or are they a terrorist organization?

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