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Foundation & Rim Joist Question Regarding Structure and Insulation - 1925 Home
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We have a 1925 home in Michigan with balloon framing. We recently air sealed (as best as one can) the attic including fireblocking and foaming in the open balloon framed cavities. We blew 18ā€³ of cellulose and are finalizing the insulated attic hatch, and now onto the rim joists.

Iā€™m new to building terminology so forgive my ignorance. I was assuming that the 1st floor floor joists we were seeing were attached to the rim joist, but Iā€™m now realizing that our brickwork stops at grade, and then there is framing that leads up to the 1st set of floor joists.

So Iā€™m wondering, is our actual rim joist on top of the sill at grade level, in other words inaccessible without going into our walls? Or is the ledger board /framing member that the 1st floor floor joists are sitting on technically still our rim joist?

Iā€™ve attached an image for clarification.

https://preview.redd.it/6ki34x6drx2a1.jpg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=878677e1a118d7b0668bf944aff07857aeb552a9

As far as insulation, would we still insulate this exposed above grade cavity in the same way, with layers of 2ā€³ rigid foam spray foamed in at the floor joist level, or would we technically need to get into the walls at the sill level in order for insulation to be effective? Iā€™m still trying to understand what the primary mode of heat loss for the rim joist area is, whether it is conduction, convection, radiation, or perhaps all three, particularly in an old balloon framed house!

A previous homeowner had stuffed about 3ā€³ of pink fiberglass in these channels at floor level and then capped them off with plywood and lumber (not rigid foam) and caulked them in. In the attached photo I have removed one of these caps to show the exposed cavity. It is my understanding that this type of treatment was once thought to be effective, but now has been replaced by using either spray foam or a rigid/spray foam combo in order to create a sufficient barrier and provide insulation.

I guess Iā€™m trying to understand, given this situation, would we just open these homeowner created cavities, and replace them with 2 layers of 2ā€³ rigid foam spray foamed in, or are we truly needing to get down to the sill plate level and treat the ā€˜actualā€™ rim joists where they meet the foundation?

Also, is there a name for this style of framing? Weā€™ve been told itā€™s a ā€œMichigan basementā€, I am 6ā€™3ā€³ and can stand up in it, but occasionally hit my head on a joist or other framing member, so itā€™s not fully counted as a living space according to code. Weā€™ve also heard it referred to as a ā€˜half-basementā€™. Can anyone clarify this terminology for us?

Any advice or help is much appreciated!

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