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If it walks like a duck

And it talks like a duck

It’s a duck.

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This is a very silly, unsubstantiated post.

It reminds of some of OP's other greatest hits, such as the declaration that Kohberger's DNA on the sheath indicates that he never touched the sheath - a rather counterintuitive, counter-factual, counter-science but pro surreal humour interpretation of the DNA. https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/s/hvRVsxeyLf

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OP seems to have completely confused statements in the hearing about there being no car videos of the car heading just south of Moscow after 4.20am and interpreted this to mean that none of the videos mentioned in the PCA exist. I suppose the bizarre speculation that no car videos exist is a step up from OP's previous assertions that Payne lost all evidence from the case except the DNA. https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/s/Ht6CqiKU9U

It is also very unclear why OP thinks officer Payne is the subject of the Brady notification, is under federal investigation and why these relate to evidence in Kohberger's case. The most complained about and internally investigated case for Moscow PD in last few years seemed to relate to arrests for illegal stickering and complaints about officer conduct.

If it quacks like a conspiracy theorist, if it writes like a conspiracy theorist, if it ducks the facts like a conspiracy theorist...

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theory on why the State is being denied access to the federal subpoenas

So, is your argument that all evidence was lost/ destroyed as you previously posted in various threads, or now just the federal subpoenas?

I understood from the last hearing that many subpoenas were handed over, and the ones which were not were not in the possession of the prosecutor, but in the hands of the federal investigators who initiated them. The key info in terms of dates, who was subpoenaed and what was supplied etc was already given to defence and I'd guess and expect the original docs will be obtained and supplied, as I think they should be.

This hysteria and conspiracy nonsense is quite silly given the federal subpoenas were openly discussed in that hearing - this is reminiscent of the conspiracy nonsense about witholding the IGG which was resolved through due process and judicial review to give the defense most but not all of the IGG info they sought.

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Did you not watch Payne go through each of the possible routes d

To go from this to arguing "all evidence except the DNA either never existed or was lost" is such a gargantuan, dizzying, gravity defying leap of the most impressive illogic, conspiracy theory type nonsense that is deserves its own (skin-melting temperature resistant) plaque in the tunnels below King Road.

Anne's "grand final question and reveal" (which you make sound altogether far too suggestive if not sultry enough to curl Bill Thompson's beard) was dealing with possible routes for the car going south from Moscow shortly after 4.20am, not all possible routes to and from the crime scene at all times on Nov 13th. You have, alas, spectacularly misinterpreted and over blown a simple matter of the car not being caught on video going south on HW 95 just after the killings - there are of course many other routes it could have taken, nor do we know the type, activation mechanism, panning etc of cameras on that route.

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I’ve never entertained theories about the tunnels…

And yet you have posted very extensively about the Moscow tunnels.

they weren’t issued with the goal of investigating and prosecuting Kohberger

!!!! Newsflash, news alert, warning of incoming obviousness spoilers!!! Alot of the investigation, subpoenas and warrants did not target Kohberger - because he was not a suspect from day 1. Many warrants and subpoenas would, I assume, target other people of potential interest, the victims' data such as bank transactions, socials, phone records etc. Why on earth is it surprising that warrants and subpoenas, especially from the start of the investigation do not relate to Kohberger or do relate to general info (e.g bank security camera footage of streets).

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you stopped to think about why subpoenas related to this case would not be in the possession of the prosecutor

That was discussed specifically and clearly at the court hearing. As it was an investigative federal grand jury, the subpoenas were initiated by federal investigators who retain the original documents. Contrary to the tone and content of your post and many comments, such as your entertaining outputs about the tunnels and "all case evidence being destroyed" not everything is a weird, clandestine, John Grisham on a free-wheeling, maniacal meth binge, dark conspiracy.

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all case evidence besides the DNA stuff either never existed or was lost from December, 2022 to May, 2024 (as confirmed by Mowery and Payne)

This is very silly, conspiratorial nonsense of quite an advanced kind, of the magnitude of tunnels squared, Mexican drug cartels cubed.

no videos show the car on the routes to or from the area

Do you mean except for the c 20 videos specifically mentioned in the PCA which explicitly refer to the car travelling to/ from the scene, including videos of the car circling the house and speeding away from the scene just after the killings? If these videos do not exist, why are they described in the PCA, and why do c half of the videos also have reference to synchronous movement/ location with Kohberger's phone?

On tunnels, I do not think there ARE any tunnels connecting 1122 King Road to the frat, to Mexican drug imports, or to anywhere else, with or without skin-melting steam.

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I’ve literally never made a post about the tunnels

I was using "post" and "comment" interchangeably, much as you use science and science-fiction. I clarify - you certainly comment alot about the tunnels for someone with no interest in them: https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/s/x8GqLlNPTR.

I am very concerned to learn that the tunnels have now taken on a James Bond, Spectre-villainesque aspect by dint of the "skin-melting" steam. We can only suppose and be grateful that sharks with lasers on their heads would be outside the budget of the UoI Junta, for now at least, until their dire conspiracy to convict Kohberger succeeds.

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What do you disagree with in that?

Oh, your many and varied comments on the tunnels show a level of interest and study of those I could neither hope nor wish to match.

Not wanting discussion on the matter of your odd, baseless assertions that "no videos of the suspect car exist" or "all case evidence except DNA was destroyed" to get more subterranean, dark and skin-melting, I'd just suggest that often things like steam, water and electricity are transported in pipes, themselves running in the tunnel. Sort of similar to the way murdering sociopaths might put ID cards inside a glove, and the glove inside a box.

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that found the CAST files o

Some phone data files does not equate to "all case evidence except DNA not existing or being lost" as you oddly claimed

Payne [doesn’t recall “a single video depicting the car on any of the possible routes"

.... the possible routes of the car going south of Moscow just after 4.20am, not video of the car anywhere on any route to and from the scene

Alas, you are plumbing new conspiratorial depths and are conflating, misunderstanding and misinterpreting rather small, discrete pieces of info and blowing them up enormously in quite a fantasy based fashion.

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That has been answered by me and at least two other users already. Perhaps as these answers were quite simple and straight forward and not a weird, wild and silly conspiracy you didn't like the answers, or didn't absorb them? Perhaps you should peruse the answers you already received?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/s/oGyNc5zLCj

https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/s/tHRYdHr8Lx

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Payne [doesn’t recall “a single video depicting the car on any of the possible routes"

.... the possible routes of the car going south of Moscow just after 4.20am, not video of the car anywhere on any route to and from the scene

Clearly the c 21 videos in the PCA exist.

Clearly as the defence complained about the amount of discovery handed over, 51 TB if data files etc, not all case evidence was destroyed or lost.

You really must try to base your commentary on some even loose approximation of the facts and evidence, not your increasingly odd interpretation at right angles to what is plainly stated. As an example - this from the PCA does not suggest there are no videos of the car going to/ from the scene as you claimed.

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