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Is it known how quickly the sheath was processed by forensics? I would assume the DNA was found rather soon after the investigation began. So for those who believe the sheath was planted, this would mean BK was the targeted suspect right from the beginning. However other reports suggest BK was not on police radar for some time after the investigation began. Maybe someone could walk through how the ‘sheath was planted’ scenario would work?
Killers leave DNA at the scene or on victims in less than 10% of murder cases. So the idea that the scene should be plastered with Kohberger's DNA is false, and the sheath DNA is very significant,
Secondary transfer DNA persists on the hands for c 5 hours, without hand-washing or friction from handling other objects. The DNA profile of the person actually touching an object is usually seen as the only or major contributor on that object in studies testing secondary transfer (whereas the person touched first who did not touch the object directly most often has no recoverable profile found on the object).
Secondary transfer DNA is quickly eliminated from hands by common activities30168-4/fulltext?uuid=uuid:9037ead5-91a4-4beb-a667-2d327059ee49) like hand washing or touching surface/ objects, even using a 5 minute hand-holding as the model for secondary transfer. Even when tested immediately after an extended handshake, most such contacts do not transfer DNA of the person who did not touch an object, via the second person, to an object
So, any credible explanation for secondary DNA transfer or the DNA being planted would need to explain:
- Why the person who touched the sheath did not leave their DNA but Kohberger's DNA is on the sheath, when all studies suggest the opposite should be the case
- Who and how Kohberger touched in the few hours before the murders for his DNA to be on the sheath by secondary transfer, given his own first alibi stated he was out driving alone in that period
the whole sheath had already been pre-cleaned of all previous DNA
Which is getting into a well planned framing plan. In which case, given that Kohberger had no felony conviction and his DNA was not in CODIS, his DNA may not have been useful. Your "framer" assumes there was sufficient (and time stable) DNA on the sheath; your "framer" assumes the DNA will lead to Kohberger even though he has no record; do you think the framer anticipated successful use of IGG which, certainly to a lay-person, assumes a Kohberger relative had done a genetic genealogy test. Why does this "framer" who goes to the trouble of sterilising a sheath and handling it to keep it sterile other than BK's DNA not plant BK's hair or some other item, and why did the framer not phone in a tip on Kohberger? Seems a high risk, high uncertainty, odd framing full of assumptions. The match of the eyewitness ID to Kohberger, the match of his car and (likely) match of his unusual shoe size also seem incredible coincidences or very difficult for a framer to plan and stage also?
to be driving around in the area that night, had their cell phone off at suspciious times>*
Well, this is looking to be a lot less certain right now
What is less certain? Even his own alibi confirms he was driving in the area at the time, and his phone data shows him c 5 miles away to the south a short time after the car sped away in that direction from the scene.
Rhodes scholar, not "road"Â
I wondered about "road scholar" and thought maybe as Payne has "eluded" elusively to so many streets and highways in the PCA it related to that and not Cecil.
posted on here about the Canadian mass knife murders, which that was a planned mass murder
I think that is a really bad example, as the killer there was having a mental breakdown, thought he was turning into a vampire and had stuffed garlic into his socks - it was not a rational, planned attack, but more a result of deteriorating mental condition at the time.
If the sheath was already there, why was noone else's DNA on it?
I agree that killing 4, and EC being there, may indeed have been unplanned and XK being awake a surprise to BK.
Yes, i'd guess guns would be most, but there are also knife attacks that leave no DNA
Probably difficult to find that breakdown of data I'd think.
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That is not known. We know the snap/ button did not have anyone else's DNA. So if it belonged go KG/ MM they didn't open/ handle it? If the sheath/ knife belonged to KG/ MM it is still (indeed, more) incriminating for BK's DNA to be on it, as it further limits chances for innocent contact or transfer of his DNA to the sheath if he has no connection to the victims.
That is a different point. The sheath under a body with Kohberger's DNA on it is incriminating, irrespective of whether the knife can be traced to his ownership. Also if the sheath not being owned by MM/ KG or roomates/ bfs etc is established. In many murder cases the murder weapon is not recovered, that does not prevent prosecution.
I'd guess most planned murders involve the killer taking the weapon with them. Perhaps more unplanned, spontaneous killings involve the killer grabbing a weapon of opportunity at the scene already.
That makes little sense both in terms of only Kohberger's DNA being on it and it being in the bed.