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This isnât a Tom Thumb hate post nor a Tom Thumb love post
Im rlly curious as to what a Tom Thumb bit does? Like obviously it sits in the horses mouth, you pull one rein it tells the horse go that way and pull the other way it goes the other way
But I see so much âomg I love tom thumbs anyone who hates them is uneducated and doesnât have soft handsâ and âomg I hate Tom thumbs anyone who loves them is uneducated and an animal abuserâ
WHAT DO THEY DO? I watched a few videos about what they do and how they work and both were videos that had very clear negative biases and I donât want to listen to only one side of the story
So if you could provide info and sources from both sides that would be awesome. I wanna hear why you love the bit and not js âmy horse does the best in itâ because some horses do best in bits that are abusive and others do best in the softest bit you can imagine.
Obviously Iâm new to the horse world and gonna talk to real people about it but I wanna hear more diverse opinions!
I ask that you donât hate on others for their opinions and if you feel the need to educate idk I canât control yall but plz be civil
Thanks for anyone who responds :D
Ok so first off itâs important to note that there are actually three different bits that are called Tom thumbs, depending on what part of the world youâre in. This is one of the reasons why youâll see differing opinions on it. In Australia the name is used for a bit thatâs similar to a fulmer snaffle (nothing wrong with this bit). In the UK itâs a short shank gag bit thatâs the same as what in the US is called a Jr. Cowhorse (which as a gag bit, albeit a mild one, has its own controversy.)
But the American version of the Tom Thumb is what youâll usually see people referring to, which is a single jointed curb bit (often incorrectly labelled as a snaffle because of the broken mouthpiece, but itâs the shank that makes it a leverage but not a snaffle.) The shanks are straight which makes it automatically harsher with less presignal (though there is a variation with more swept back shanks- youâll get differing opinions on whether or not that version is actually a Tom Thumb). The single jointed mouth is unstable in the horseâs mouth and with the amount of leverage the shanks give, it tends to trap the jaw in a rather severe nutcracker action when pressure is applied. On top of that, thereâs a separate slot for the curb strap from where the headstall attaches which impacts how well the curb strap prevents the bit from over rotating. Overall it is not a well designed bit, there are dozens of other curb bits on the market that are more well balanced and fair to the horse, the only reason they are still so prolific is marketing. Walk into any store that sells Weaver bits and youâll see one with packaging stating that itâs a mild bit. For years theyâve been pushed as a good transition bit for going from a snaffle to a curb. And thereâs certainly people who are still holding on to that concept even though itâs been thoroughly shown to be a mechanically awful choice of bits.
The âsoft handsâ excuse is never a good one. Because someone with soft hands and a well educated horse should be looking for a bit that is fair and provides more subtle signals to the horse, not one that goes from zero to OUCH! when pressure is applied.
Bauchers are pretty much my favorite snaffles. So good for horses that prefer a more stable, quiet bit. I ride my mare in a solid low port baucher.
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Just someone whoâs ridden a lot of different horses in a lot of different bits over the years and let my ADHD hyperfocus on finally learning how they work and why to pick one over another lol.
Most of it really just comes down to basic physics and close observation of how things sit in a horseâs mouth.
(Saying all of this as someone who fell prey to the Tom Thumb marketing many years ago in pursuit of the ârightâ bit before I learned better)