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Something Iâve seen a couple times now online is western riders use the word âcollectionâ to refer to getting a horse on the bit (or more often getting them to just put their head where it looks pretty but thatâs a problem in English riding too so we wonât focus on that for now). Is that an actual issue of people misunderstanding collection or just âslangâ? (Like in Germany itâs very common to refer to a bridle as a âsnaffelâ. Idk why people just do)
âWesternâ has different disciplines and levels just like English.
Lots of western events literally cannot be performed without some degree of collection and hind end engagement. Reiners canât slide, canât spin a 1, canât change leads on a dime. Cutters canât⌠well, cut. Cowhorses canât make a 20 foot slide down a fence to stop a cow. Performance people canât make 4 balanced, adorable lead changes down a set of cones on a loose rein.
I think what youâre describing is more an issue of âlevelâ of the person whose doing the talking than the discipline. Good horsemanship is good horsemanship at the end of the day.
Truly hard to tell without seeing the videos or context but unless theyâre trainers you follow/have experience with/personally appreciate their horses, I would write off social media training âtipsâ pretty quickly.
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What videos? What conversations? What context?
Barrel racers donât exactly have a good reputation for horsemanship - although of course some do. You can get away with geehawwing a talented horse around a set of barrels enough to maybe place at a jackpot.
The reiners however⌠what kind of level? Who? A conversational video? A training video? Perhaps they were discussing training to someone who had a specific problem? Perhaps they were assuming the folks listening knew the basics of riding and training a reiner, know how to feel ones back lift and shoulders lighten and were talking about something specific? Perhaps theyâre just not very good trainers? Perhaps they were talking about first steps on a colt learning to rock back, soften and collect?
Picking up the face and getting a good connection from rein to body part (hind end, shoulder) is the place you start. A horse needs to be soft and responsive in the mouth when you pick up on both reins vertically to learn how to rock back on their hocks.
Without more context thereâs not much to be said, but a reining horse with his head forced in the dirt isnât going to perform worth a salt without every other piece of the puzzle being in place as well.