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By adults, for adults. [Daddy][Dd/lg][incest]["Daddy mentions"] and the [age] tag. A discussion about tagging (not a discussion about the validity of these fantasies!)
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Hi,

a lot of us on GWA are into "the Daddy thing" but there are nuances to "the Daddy thing" that deserve to be tagged accurately.

Tags aren't just flashing neon advertising for our audios.

[M4F] Otherwise boring title [but look at these juicy tags][juicy][peppy][fresh]

Tags also need to be informative in order to help listeners make an informed decision about what they want to listen to. This is important to ensure listening is consensual. A listener can only consent if they know what they're consenting to. This means that fans of "that one hot thing" can be informed with a [that one hot thing] tag that this audio is for them. On the flip-side, it also means that if your audio features [sexual allergen #3] and that's something a listener is allergic to, the audio should be labeled as such so the listener can avoid it.

Because I see a lot of people are into "the Daddy thing" but I also occasionally see some confusion about terms and tagging faux pas or outright mistakes, I wanted to share what I know.

[Daddy] is a catch-all tag for any kind of Daddy sex. It could be about calling your otherwise vanilla boyfriend "Daddy", it could be about a Daddy-themed BDSM relationship, or about incest between father and daughter. As a lone tag, it doesn't tell us what type of relationship we're dealing with so the informational value of this tag on its own is limited. Nevertheless, it tells us a character is referred to as Daddy, so if that's something that thrills or chills, we can click or skip.

The following usage is to my knowledge not relevant on GWA: In the gay scene the word Daddy can describe someone with a certain body type, irrespective of whether he is called Daddy during sex. On GWA, if you see [Daddy] you can expect someone to be called Daddy in the audio, irrespective of their body type. If you want to tag an audio to convey it's about someone with a Daddy body type you may wish to clarify this somehow. E.g. "[Daddy-type]"?

[Dd/lg] The abbreviation stands for Daddy dom/little girl. This tag is not a catch-all for all kinds of Daddy sex. It describes a Dominant/submissive power exchange relationship in the broad spectrum of BDSM in which one partner takes on the role of the Daddy Dom(-inant) and the other the role of the little girl submissive. I won't go into detail about what the exact emotional differences between that and a non-daddy-themed D/s relationship are. That's beyond the scope of this post. What's important for this discussion is that this is a type of BDSM relationship between two consenting adults who are not father and daughter but merely use the Daddy/little girl (or often Babygirl) labels for each other.

This does not, by necessity or default, include age-play or incest-play. Thus many who abhor these forms of play may still be into Dd/lg for the unique relationship dynamic. If you incorporate age- or incest-play, please add these tags for clarification. Otherwise it's assumed the audio contains neither.

[incest] What it says on the tin. [Daddy] alone does not specify incest (see above). If the Daddy in the audio is also his partner's father, it should therefore also be tagged with [incest].

[age] The [age] tag on GWA is mandatory for any audio with "fantasy age play where any character is above the age of puberty but below the age of 18". Since a few months ago, in addition to the [age] tag, such audios also require a disclaimer explicitly stating they're fantasy content made by adults for adults.

(Aside: I don't know why people are putting that same disclaimer on audios that don't have any measure of age-play in them but I guess it's still accurate *shrug*... just know it's only mandatory for [age] posts)

People have been skittish about the tag lately, fearing that while for now, audios with the tag & disclaimer are allowed, the reddit admins may change their mind some day and crack down on such posts. I understand the worry. Nevertheless, the tag shouldn't be left out if it's warranted. Just the "fantasy by and for adults" disclaimer alone is not enough. Only adults are allowed on GWA anyway so it's really a given. That's not what the [age] tag is about. Also, another disclaimer claiming all depicted characters are of age even if they're clearly not treated as such does also not mean you can leave out the [age] tag. The tag isn't a branding of what you are or aren't guilty of so you don't have to look for loopholes to avoid having to put it on your audio. It's, instead, a warning meant to protect listeners who don't want to hear age-play.

If an audio is about a young girl having sex with her Daddy for 20 minutes and at the end the performer yells "Psych! I was just pretending! I'm actually 39 years old and this is just a fantasy!" that's still 20 minutes of audio about a young girl having sex with her Daddy. Someone who wants to avoid that needs to be warned of it. That's what the [age] tag is for.

So why can't I tag [age-play] instead? [age], on GWA, always means age-play. See the rules linked above: There is no case where an audio featuring real underage people would be allowed. Neither as performers nor as characters! Any [age] audio is therefore by definition a fantasy age-play audio. What's potentially triggering for people, however, isn't usually the age-play aspect but the age-play aspect so that's what goes on the mandatory warning label.

If you want to clarify that not only are you age-playing for the audio but your characters in the audio are adults engaging in age-play too, you can explain that in the text body of your post or you can add an [age-play] tag in addition to the mandatory [age] tag. It could look like this "[age][age-play]", "[age] but really just [age-play]" or something like "[age][-play]". What's important is that [age] appears just like this because some visitors to GWA wish to filter posts with [age] from view and the filter code only picks up what's literally labeled [age].

[Daddy mentions] To end this on a light note, this is a little pet-peeve of mine. "[Something mentions] should, in my opinion, mean something is mentioned but isn't actually part of the scenario. For example, [dildo mentions] would mean to me that a character might say "Gosh darn, I forgot my dildos at home so I can only finger you." and then sex without the involvement of dildos ensues. Otherwise, just tag it [dildos]! [Daddy mentions], following the same pattern, should therefore, in my opinion, mean "Daddy" is mentioned somehow but the audio isn't about Daddy sex. For example, a character could say "I liked when you called me Daddy last night but today I want to connect with you without such roles." and then they have sex where he isn't called Daddy.

I've seen the tag used like that but I've also seen it used to mean "I call someone Daddy a few times" but to me that should just be tagged [Daddy]. What's the point of calling that [Daddy mentions] instead? Anyway, that's nit-picky. You do you.


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