Hey all, as we know from the last 'Sibling Bonds' banner, the current rates for all units within a banner are only placeholders. From last banner, Eirika and Seliph got lowered to 4⋆ bases, whilst Ephraim and Julia remained 5⋆. Thus, I'd like to create a discussion on whether it’s worth pulling for units in banners where we can’t garner an accurate grasp of what base the new units will be (as the new banners only introduce them as 5⋆s).

I’ll try comb over a the main concern. Generally in gacha-based games, as long as you keep summoning, even on just banners where you’re aiming for a 5⋆ base, collecting almost all the 3⋆ base units will become an eventuality thanks to their much higher rates. Thanks to the awakening system, this would heavily lower the value of banner units who’ll eventually become 3⋆ bases as you’d be much more likely to pull them when you keep obtaining 3⋆ after 3⋆. If you really enjoy the character, you can simply pull them as a 3⋆ and invest feathers into them to make them 5⋆ without going through the focus banner summoning system where the odds are stacked against you. This is similarly true with 4⋆ bases, but to a much lesser extent. For example, with the current banner, it would be no surprise if units such as Klein become a 3⋆ (although, with the current distribution of most archers being 3⋆ base, I reckon he’ll be a 4⋆ base) and Sanaki being a likely 4⋆ base, is it really worth pulling for them now ignoring the feather cost (although I know this is an important factor for many of us with the current feather farming system)? Personally, I think it’s more efficient to save your orbs and ignore banners like this until we get a unit who’ll very likely be a 5⋆ base such as Ike or repeat banners for Takumi, Lyn, Hector, Azura, etc.

With that said, I want to hear other people’s opinions on the matter.

Edit: I made this a thread because I think it's a rather important concept in terms of both the general application to all gacha games (however, in other gacha games, new units aren't limited to 5⋆ until the banner is over) and also as it is particularly important for F2P players in maintaining their orb savings. I personally whaled for Ephraim and was honestly glad to see him maintain a 5⋆ base, as it kept his status as a rare unit. However, with the changes to both Eirika and Seliph now being 4⋆'s, I've seen quite a few Eirika's pop out, despite her initial status as a rare unit.