Below are attempted negotiations with Bryn about an illegal land claim which violates Fingdom Law through the use of economic sanctions imposed through ingame plugins in an attempt to force compliance by saying we should comply because after taking something that is ours and letting us use it for free means its helping us. In this there is noway we can represent the people of Fingdom under this claim that puts a portal placement tax on the people of ULV regardless of over a year long developmental plan to improve travel and peace and free trade for Civcraftians everywhere with a International Portal in Ember that gives all world leaders (who already govern by Fingdom law) a place to govern together the center of the map.

For those of you interested in politics:

[4:56:29 PM] To Bryn City: g'day

[4:56:29 PM] NaughtyOrNice69 connected.

[4:56:34 PM] (Channel) geohash: Hello.

[4:56:50 PM] To Bryn City: Its nice to find you here

[4:57:20 PM] To Bryn City: I think this chat with you may be one of mylast diplomatic exchanges for a while

[4:57:42 PM] To Bryn City: I will not be seeking to run next term

[4:57:52 PM] To Bryn City: and a new pres will be voted in

[4:58:08 PM] To Bryn City: What is the offer you made to the nations around your portal?

[4:58:22 PM] (Channel) geohash: Free and Open Access without restrictions.

[4:58:43 PM] (Channel) geohash: And that any land claims for 150 blocks around the portal would be seceded to Bryn.

[4:59:02 PM] To Bryn City: What are the cords?

[4:59:09 PM] (Channel) geohash: On the R

[4:59:13 PM] (Channel) geohash: Of EMBER

[4:59:16 PM] (Channel) geohash: On your big map

[4:59:53 PM] To Bryn City: link?

[5:01:21 PM] To Bryn City: I dont know what map you mean

[5:01:31 PM] (Channel) geohash: https://i.imgur.com/skLIqdZ.jpg

[5:02:19 PM] To Bryn City: Are you trying to provoke us?

[5:02:42 PM] (Channel) geohash: I'd say you are.

[5:02:56 PM] (Channel) geohash: I'm not responding to ultimatums.

[5:02:58 PM] (Channel) geohash: Or threats.

[5:03:01 PM] (Channel) geohash: Or anything of the like

[5:03:28 PM] To Bryn City: We have a land claim on this area that stands unchallenged by Vyrn for 1 year.

[5:03:33 PM] To Bryn City: Bryn*

[5:03:46 PM] (Channel) geohash: Have you ever developed the land?

[5:03:54 PM] To Bryn City: We have a land Claim for our Federation

[5:03:55 PM] (Channel) geohash: You can't makr arbitrary land claims and expect them to be recognized.

[5:04:16 PM] (Channel) geohash: Omen has been around longer than you. I consider their claims more valid

[5:04:27 PM] To Bryn City: Geo, when a group makes a land claim it is under their laws.

[5:04:37 PM] (Channel) geohash: Then I claim all of the ULV claimed lands.

[5:04:41 PM] (Channel) geohash: Thereby you are under my laws.

[5:04:41 PM] To Bryn City: This is a politcal server

[5:04:43 PM] (Channel) geohash: See how it doesn't work?

[5:04:54 PM] To Bryn City: People make laws to protect people and intrest of the majority

[5:04:55 PM] (Channel) geohash: An economic experiment most of all.

[5:05:03 PM] (Channel) geohash: We are the majority.

[5:05:08 PM] (Channel) geohash: You are the minority in due truth

[5:05:14 PM] To Bryn City: In this case Fingdom looks after the best intrest of all people

[5:05:19 PM] (Channel) geohash: You claim 10% of the server's map.

[5:05:26 PM] (Channel) geohash: I don't expect anyone to consider your claims valid.

[5:05:38 PM] To Bryn City: I think you are misinformed.

[5:05:56 PM] (Channel) geohash: Doesn't change the fact that we're defending our modest administration and claims.

[5:06:08 PM] To Bryn City: geo

[5:06:19 PM] (Channel) geohash: I made you an offer.

[5:06:22 PM] (Channel) geohash: Free and open access.

[5:06:22 PM] To Bryn City: I donot htink you understand what it is that Fingdom is

[5:06:27 PM] (Channel) geohash: To a nether portal 2 minutes away

[5:06:40 PM] To Bryn City: geo

[5:06:42 PM] (Channel) geohash: You end up threatening me and insisting that you are more right then me less than 5 minutes after.

[5:06:59 PM] To Bryn City: geo I have made no threats

[5:07:05 PM] To Bryn City: plase link me what you are talking about

[5:07:11 PM] (Channel) geohash: To what you said over Mumble?

[5:07:17 PM] (Channel) geohash: That you will defend you claims with force?

[5:07:38 PM] To Bryn City: We are a nation of over one year, yes that is what happens here geo

[5:08:11 PM] To Bryn City: When people do not respect others work and force themselves on law abiding people there is conflict

[5:08:27 PM] (Channel) geohash: I'm getting tired of rhetoric.

[5:08:45 PM] (Channel) geohash: Either provide a reasonable solution or hurry up and do some stupid shit.

[5:08:49 PM] To Bryn City: no mic means slower conversations

[5:09:05 PM] To Bryn City: The facts are simple in this case

[5:09:15 PM] (Channel) geohash: If you're going to tell me again

[5:09:17 PM] (Channel) geohash: That the land is ULV

[5:09:19 PM] To Bryn City: The ULV has a land claim through a federation of states and people

[5:09:27 PM] (Channel) geohash: Then I'm going into that secure channel and I'm just going to stop bothering with you.

[5:09:28 PM] To Bryn City: who follow one base law

[5:09:32 PM] (Channel) geohash: And I'm done.

At no point was he willing to listen to our position and respect that the was portal was an intrusion and attack on us in the most deepest sense. Keeping us from a Nationwide goal and therefore forcing a whole people to have to work even harder for something that they have the legal right to place within their land in an ideal place for the whole server to enjoy. Fingdom doesn't exist solely for itself, it is a people and a movement of Civcraftians who want the leaders of nations do act on what is best for all Civcratians everywhere. This is an act of war. A sad sad day for Bryn and the Poeple of Fingdom. He refused to hear solutions, knowing that I did not have a mic he rushed me through the conversation and rudely left breaking talks. He did not care that we might have another view that we were very serious about. We see this as Bryn Imposing their will on ULV through force. We are a nation and therefore this is an clear violation of our laws and sovereignty. For the sake of the server and for Fingdom and for the innocents citizens of Bryn we will once again extend the olive branch to Bryn. It should also be known that the ULV welcomes people to develope the land and contribute to our nation as land owners and citizens under one law, but like all nations we have laws and in this case they refused to even respect a year long land claim fought for in three wars on of which /u/geohash paid reps to end on behalf of Olympia. He knows most of all that we are a nation and that we will not be forced around. We have a place for civil resolve. How can we share our resolve if you say we do not have the right to even have a policy on what do do in situations like this as a nation, because he says. Then to state that he then claims ULV for Bryn though sarcastic is only going to Provoke a people who are already provoked by Bryns disrespect for our laws, land our political and economic experiment on the Civcraft server.

Edit: spelling