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With the Discussions of Ruby Rose, Androgyny and Enby/Queer/GenderQueer/Non-Binary Folks, Let's Clear Some Shit Up, Shall We?
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This is almost a 101 space, so we haven't talked a lot about non-binary identities.

Some of us are non-binary, some of us are genderqueer, some of us are neutrois and there are more gender identity options off the binary! We all get respect here.

So let's get some shit straight, ok, friends?

  1. Androgyny and genderfluidity/queerness, etc aren't the same. Ruby Rose identifies as genderfluid, to my knowledge. 'Androgynous' seems to be almost an exclusively externally applied term for her. Has anyone seen anything in which she applies the label androgynous to herself? Everything I've seen in her own words says neutral or fluid.

  2. Your identity isn't defined by how you look. This is a deeply personal point to me, and that's why I'm starting with it. Some of us present femme, but identify with no gender. Some of us are AMAB and present masculine, but identify as neither male or female. Some of us are AFAB, dress in masculine ways and want to be identified as both male and female. Or both neutrois and male. Them's the breaks. Ruby Rose and all the rest of us are not gendered by how we look any more than any other person is. Their face and breasts and choice of hair doesn't make them not actually queer. You cannot tell someone's gender identity just by looking at them. Which leads into my second point.

  3. Non-binary, agender and genderqueer people (etc) are under the trans umbrella. Like many bi-identified people in LGBT spaces, this is often risky for genderqueer people to even lay claim to for a whole lot of reasons. You don't need to participate in making it harder. If someone says they identify as enby, but they look like a girl to you, keep it to yourself instead of telling them they should just accept that they're a girl. It's none of your business to police identity. Ever.

  4. Respect pronouns. Period. The end. No excuses, no caveats.

  5. Like any other person, genderqueer people may or may not want to participate in confirmation surgery of many or any type. Their decisions are theirs and no one else gets a say. If someone identifies as masculine and queer and has enormous breasts that they want to keep, that's not your business to have an opinion on.

  6. Specific presentation is not required to 'be really' genderqueer. I know this sounds like a recap of two, but it bears restatement in a different way. Just because someone looks like they're of a gender you can easily identify doesn't make them 'not trying hard enough' or 'not queer enough'. Queer people are not required to endanger themselves through dress, prove how queer they are, or even look out of the norm to have valid identities. It's hard enough to be functionally invisible in all communities without being expected to be the flashiest member of said communities.

If any other non-binary members are comfortable adding some basic guidelines in the comments, please do. I'll drop two 101 links at the bottom here and hopefully we'll all come away from this better people.

http://letsqueerthingsup.com/2015/03/15/8-things-non-binary-people-need-to-know/

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/07/am-i-non-binary/

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