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A Grounded Look at Women’s Issues for Non-Feminists
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I've seen many people learn about an exaggeration or misconception regarding women's issues and then assume or believe that there's really nothing there at all for the issue. For example, after learning that women don't actually make 23% less for the same work, many people assume that there's now a "nothing to see here" label on income/wealth differences. But an issue doesn't have to be a result of discrimination to matter.

Or sometimes people learn about studies finding that men and women experience domestic violence at comparable rates but they don't realise that the studies also generally find a higher injury rate for women (their higher injury rate is a concern for women, and men receiving less support/acceptance is a problem for them—both facts are relevant for understanding gender and domestic violence as a whole).

Women's issues obviously aren't my focus but I wanted to make a write-up identifying this as a problem, and providing some statistics, sources, and arguments showing that there are still valid women's issues even if we take away the often-propagated misconceptions and exaggerations.

https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/a-grounded-look-at-womens-issues-for-non-feminists/

For example, I dislike the idea that politicians being mostly men means that women are "oppressed", but (unlike many other people interested in men's issues) I'm actually sympathetic to the idea of having comparable numbers of men and women making laws. I compare it to the concept of regional representation, which is pretty uncontroversial.

In addition to any other comments you have (on how common you think these misconceptions are, suggestions for additions to the list that can be backed up and convincing to a non-feminist audience, etc.), I'm interested in your thoughts on the statistics on sexual assault. Most of us are aware of the CDC NISVS findings that (when counting "made to penetrate") men and women have comparable levels of rape victimization (on a yearly time-frame, though not in lifetime numbers). I take that seriously, but at the same time it seems to be an outlier, and if I went with just that and ignored the other findings I'd really just be cherry-picking the data. Thoughts? Are there other sources that line up with it? Any ideas on the reasons for the disparity between that and other studies? (Two of the other ones look at sexual assault, and one at sexual coercion.)

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