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DEVELOPER'S CHOICE (HEALER/SUPPORT)
This is our first time with multiple banners in the survey, and dailies presumably still going towards the FFXII banner. So I need to be clear on how this works:
- Unless you specify otherwise, all your pulls (including dailies) are still on the FFXII banner.
- You can submit to the HEALER survey by putting h in the email address.
- You can submit to the SUPPORT survey by putting s in the email address.
It took some rejiggering of everything to make this all work but I think I've got it. (Granted I lack Gumi's stellar QA department... burn) Unfortunately I'll be going to sleep before the banners are active, so if there are any problems I won't get to them until the morning.
I'm not expecting huge individual results from this, since the pulls are going to be split three ways between the still-popular FFXII banner, two pretty desirable pick-up banners, and those of you who are still hoarding for CG units at the like. The good news is we're now doing monthly tabulations that will be able to see the rates across all of these banners, so that's exciting.
As usual, feel free to post your cheers and salt in the comments. (But if you want your pulls to be included in the survey, you need to submit screenshots by email.)
Summon Survey
Please read the instructions online if you are new to this.
Type of pull | Address |
---|---|
10 1 pull | [email protected] |
Single ticket | [email protected] |
Guaranteed 4* ticket | summon [email protected] |
Daily pull | summon [email protected] |
For more information on the different options you can use to send in your pulls (including how to bundle up multiple pulls if you're spending a lot of tickets), check out the instructions.
This system is updated each week to handle new units and better cope with the idiosyncrasies of each device and screenshot, and as in any living project mistakes can occur. Make sure to verify the results of the pull you get, and if there's a mistake please forward the response email to [email protected].
Results
- Healer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CRNc34oDk5knTWnE8OaMD8WDV3_uBIoxi2dPX7t1o_w/edit?usp=sharing
- Support: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ioG_4yuxeRN_y_-mIFZgV-qMZ2LMijrU6GxH5b3XxlY/edit?usp=sharing
Banner
Pull rates are estimated only; that's why we do the survey! Know your odds before pulling.
HEALER - add h to the email address
Unit | Name | Wiki | Origin | Rarity | Trust Mastery | Ticket | Guaranteed 4★ | 10 1 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ayaka | Wiki Reddit |
FFBE | 5-6★ | [Materia] Pure White Blessing Gain Regen (Champion) (10122) at the start of a battle. Recover MP (10%) per turn. Increase LB gauge by 2 per turn. |
0.5% | 1.87% | 6.67% | |
Rem | Wiki Reddit |
FF TYPE-0 | 5-6★ | [Materia] Love Increase HP and MP by 30%. |
0.5% | 1.87% | 6.67% | |
Luka | Wiki Reddit |
FFBE | 4-6★ | [Materia] Water God's Protection Increase SPR and MP by 25%. Increase resistance to Water by 20%. |
2.37% | 23.75% | 40.0% | |
Refia | Wiki Reddit |
FFIII | 4-6★ | [Materia] Mentality Increase SPR by 30% and MP by 20%. |
2.37% | 23.75% | 40.0% | |
Aiden | Wiki Reddit |
FFBE | 3-5★ | [Robe] Vestment of Mind DEF 40, SPR 35 Grants 'Mind Charge' passive. |
19.5% | n/a | 89.2% |
SUPPORT - add s to the email address
Unit | Name | Wiki | Origin | Rarity | Trust Mastery | Ticket | Guaranteed 4★ | 10 1 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Veritas of the Dark | Wiki Reddit |
FFBE | 5-6★ | [Materia] Sworn Six's Pride - Dark Increase ATK by 30% when equipped with a Great Sword. Increase ATK by 30% when equipped with a Heavy Armor. |
0.5% | 1.87% | 6.67% | |
Ramza | Wiki Reddit |
FFT | 5-6★ | [Cloth] Brave Suit DEF 51 Grants 'ATK 15%' passive. Grants 'MAG 15%' passive. |
0.5% | 1.87% | 6.67% | |
Crowe | Wiki Reddit |
FFXV | 4-6★ | [Materia] Thirst for Survival Increase SPR and HP by 30%. |
2.37% | 23.75% | 40.0% | |
Desch | Wiki Reddit |
FFIII | 4-6★ | [Accessory] Desch's Earring ATK 45 |
2.37% | 23.75% | 40.0% | |
Timothy | Wiki Reddit |
FFBE | 3-5★ | [Hat] Trick Hat MAG 35, SPR 35 Grants 'MP 15%' passive. |
19.5% | n/a | 89.2% |
FQA
Why do surveys?
Alim publishes the rates for individual units on the JP version of the game, but Gumi only publishes the rates for rarity of drops on GL. We think we have a good idea of approximately where the more specific rates are but the only way to know with any amount of confidence is to collect a statistically significant sampling of data and analyze it for ourselves. We already know that Gumi has historically given us lower rates than JP, but they don't like to admit it. Furthermore, by keeping specific rates a secret Gumi maintains the ability to change the rates on any banner whenever they see fit to do so, so if they won't give us transparency it's important we keep up the effort on our end to at least hold them accountable.
Doesn't Gumi already publish their rates?
As of the January 25, 2018 update Gumi began publishing drop rates within the app, ostensibly to comply with Apple's recent requirement for apps with loot boxes to disclose their rates. They only disclose the drop rates for rarities, however, not their on-banner rates or the rates of individual units within the banner.
Hopefully Gumi will eventually publish their on-banner rates as well. Until they do, however, an extremely large and important part of their gambling mechanic remains concealed from us.
What are the rates, exactly?
The rates as known are posted here: https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Summon
Also be sure to check the Oddsbitch to know your chances of getting the units you want with the resources you have.
How do I participate?
Please read these instructions first. Take a screenshot or use the built-in Share button whenever you summon on the banner, every time. Then send those screenshots to the appropriate email listed above. You will receive a response listing the units you pulled, and your information will be aggregated with everyone else's. (In the future, you'll be able to view and edit your information, too, so you can keep track of how your pulls compare with the rest of the community's.)
Please commit to reporting all of your pulls, not just the memorable ones. That's the only way we can get meaningful results.
How do I submit 10 1 tickets and EX tickets?
You can submit EX tickets and 10 1 tickets by adding ex to the address you submit to. Note that these will not be counted towards the banner, although they will be useful in tracking the rates in general.
Here is a summary of email addresses you can use for off-banner pulls:
Type of pull | Address |
---|---|
10 1 ticket | summon [email protected] |
EX 3* ticket | summon [email protected] |
EX 4* ticket | summon ex [email protected] |
EX 5* ticket | summon [email protected] |
(The ex is optional on pulls that are required to be bannerless, i.e. the 10 1 ticket and the 5* ticket.)
I don't want to do screenshots. Can I submit by text?
I am evaluating options to do this, but there are several reasons I'm committing hard to this new method:
- It's much more difficult for people to troll the results (something we got all the time on the old surveys), and far easier for me to detect and ban people who do.
- It's much easier for most people to submit their pulls without missing or forgetting any. Simply screenshot as you go, and then send them in an email when it's convenient.
- 10 1 pulls are easier for most people, and these are where we get our largest set of data from.
- Ultimately, we are already getting far more accurate data than we ever did under the old system, and that's hard to argue with.
Long story short: screenshots result in better data, and I am reluctant to dilute that quality with text entries. (Although I do want to add support for individual corrections.)
I miss the old way of doing surveys.
I'm sorry.
I got an email back and it lists the wrong units!
First of all, you can reply to that email to cancel your submission.
Second of all, make sure you've followed all of the instructions carefully and correctly. There isn't room for error or creativity in how you submit to this system.
If you didn't make a mistake, you can forward your email to [email protected] and I promise I will get around to looking at it.
Previous Survey Links
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- Final Fantasy Brave Exvius (featuring Pyro Glacial Lasswell)
- King's Knight
- Holiday Special
- ETERNAL WINTER
- Final Fantasy Brave Exvius Cloud
- Final Fantasy Brave Exvius (featuring Roy)
- Final Fantasy Brave Exvius (featuring Duke/Mystea)
- Final Fantasy XV (featuring Gladiolus)
- PERFORMER'S SPECIAL
- Final Fantasy IV: Elemental Archfiends
- Final Fantasy Brave Exvius (featuring Loren)
- Halloween 2017 Part 2
- Halloween 2017 Part 1
- Final Fantasy XV: Kingsglaive
- Final Fantasy Brave Exvius (featuring Ayaka)
- Festival of the Autumn Moon
- Final Fantasy XI
- DEVELOPER'S CHOICE
- FFIII Banner #2
- Veritas Banner #2
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