Hi.

I posted this in the Q/A thread already, but maybe it's worth a discussion.

Why are skills with Ignore Def not expressed simply as having a higher multiplier? From the other wiki the ATK damage Formula is:

• (ATK^2/DEF) * Killer Effects * Level Correction * Skill Modifier

Now if you take Raging fist for example ( 120% and ignore 25% DEF ), you end up with

• (ATK^2/[DEF*0.75]) * Killer Effects * Level Correction * 1.2

Which you can express instead as :

• ATK^2 * 1/[DEF * 0.75] * Killer Effects * Level Correction * 1.2 =
• ATK^2 * 1/DEF * 1/0.75 * Killer Effects * Level Correction * 1.2 =
• ATK^2 * 1/DEF * 1.33 * Killer Effects * Level Correction * 1.2 =
• ATK^2 * 1/DEF * Killer Effects * Level Correction * 1.2 * 1.33 =
• ATK^2 * 1/DEF * Killer Effects * Level Correction * 1.6

So you can instead express Raging Fist as having a 1.6 mult, or 160%, which is a lot easier to compare to other abilities.

Since they went through the trouble off adding a defense ignore mechanic, this makes me think there's some interaction that isn't a multiplier in the formula (maybe future abilities with a unique debuff)? Or just something obvious I'm missing.

EDIT As an example :

Take an ATK of 100 and a DEF of 1000, no killer effect and equal levels. The original formula gives :

• (100^2/[1000*0.75]) * 1.2 = 16

The revised formula gives

• 100^2/1000 * 1.6 = 16

If you instead use 100 ATK and 10 DEF, the original formula gives :

• (100^2/[10*0.75]) * 1.2 = 1600

The revised formula gives

• 100^2/10 * 1.6 = 1600

So the 2 formulas are equivalent. The only way Ignore DEF can't be expressed as a mult of the skill instead, is if there is something that manipulates the formula in a way that isn't a straight multiplier, such as for example, another ability which adds a debuff that subtracts 100 from target's DEF. Or if something affects damage or the inputs, outside of this formula.