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Thinking About Returning to Estonia
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Shakesbeer1592 is in Estonia
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I lived in the Baltics as a kid, and I've always dreamed about our family returning to Estonia. And, to be blunt, life in the United States is getting pretty ugly for women, medical care, and people who aren't billionaires.

It is still just a dream of mine, but out of curiosity - If you could live in any city/town/region in Estonia, where would you live? - Regardless of budget. Thanks for your advice!

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I don’t know what you remember or know about Estonia, but there are a couple of things. The society has changed, the weather is still the same. It’s pleasant, light and livable for half of the year, while the other half of the year it’s dark, gloomy and cold. You may think it sounds like Seattle, but the sun is actually up for 2.5 hrs longer on each winter day in Seattle compared to Estonia — and this also means that in fact with the sun being extremely low, twilight-like conditions are present here for almost all of the winter months when it’s cloudy (which is 95% of the time in Nov and Dec). It is very depressing even for a native going through this every year. The society has advanced, but with a traditional occupation that doesn’t pay so high, people are not getting by that well. Prices are high while salaries are much lower than countries like Finland (and even more significantly lower than in the US), and this is the reason for why not that many people from abroad settle in Estonia, let alone permanently. Without an emotional connection to the country it can be hard to justify it. If you are a self-employed online entrepreneur, digital nomad etc, and can tolerate the weather and lack of social connections, Estonia can be a better place for you though.

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A good call that the cost of living is insanely high in the US, as are the salaries, compared to most of Europe. It’s a zero net gain situation and there’s obviously a lot of poverty in the US too. I do believe that many people from lower-income countries tend to think that the grass is greener on the other side, partially for the wrong reasons or due to not being properly informed, because the working middle class doesn’t have a lot of money to spare almost anywhere in the world.

Regarding the Estonia vs Finland case it has been all over the news lately about how food is becoming more expensive in Estonia than in Finland. And it’s true. I’ve witnessed the same items being cheaper in Finland. Food is only one part of the equation, and I do agree that other living costs make up for it somewhat. But it depends on what your needs are. I exercise and on top of that I’m a foodie, so food has personally always been my number one spender. With the cost of groceries, I can sustain my lifestyle with a salary on a Finnish level but not on an Estonian level.

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