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The consequences to working with demons 101
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Welcome to this post about working with demons and the realistic consequences that come with being surrounded by these great entities.

First, as shocking as the title may be, I would like to be clear and say that consequence is neither good nor bad. Every cause has an effect. Everything has consequences no matter what that thing is. Recently Iā€™ve been poking around other occult centered reddits and I've run into a shocking amount of fear mongering and misinformation about working with the demonic. Its not that I didnā€™t find my fellow demonolatry centered or adjacent magicians calling it out, however there was a lack of understanding within the conversation.

This lack of understanding is all centered around the ā€œdangerā€ that the demonic bring into the magician's life.

This danger always seems to only be brought up when the demonic are in question. In my opinion this is flawed. Any spirit or Entity can pose a number of dangers and ill effects within someones life. A large reason why the demonic are put to such high scrutiny is because of monotheistic fear mongering. We are still within an age of monotheistic control and propaganda. Hollywood fear and focus of the demonic do not give any favors either. Despite it being only entertainment, many people have issues separating the harmful blood drinking spirit on TV from our great solar kings that we interact with.

So just what are the effects that the demonic bring into ones life? And why is it important to be aware of them?

The Demonics energy is strong. There is no question about that. Depending on your view of the demonic these large centers of (in my opinion) conscious independent energy can bring manifestations of ones will that otherwise would be impossible. You can contact the dead, Learn long forgotten knowledge, gain wealth, learn compassion, understand the stars and a whole host of equally powerful rites and magic.

But for all of that we have to understand how spirits bring us that knowledge. Within my path I have solely worked with the demonic and have found that they are much closer to humanity then other spirits iā€™ve researched. This isnā€™t only in terms of being but in terms of how they manifest results and goals that we set with them.

The effects are much more physical and ā€œhit closer to homeā€ so to speak.

It is important to note that each and every one of the Kings, Dukes, Queens, Princes, and knights all have their own temperament and way of teaching. They have various elemental combinations and techniques of bringing your goal to the physical world. Each and every demon has a different way of helping you achieve what you want.

Asking for money from Duke Bune is miles different from asking King Mammon. Each can grant wealth no doubt but their temperaments, energy, and method of getting that wealth is wildly different. And just because they are different does not mean either one is bad or wrong.

King Mammon for example is known to be a harsher teacher he has tower energy. This means that he will more likely take intense action. If you asked him to get you 100,000$ you would likely get fired from your job. You might even get scammed out of money. And it might just so happen that your distant relative calls you and asks for money.

Why is that? Because he would also lead you to a job that will get you that 100,000$. Not only that but by getting scammed you better have learned to keep your money more secure and not fall for scams. And with your relative asking for money he might be teaching you to practice more preservation.

Not only would King Mammon lead you to getting the wealth you asked for but heā€™d teach you better money managing habits. Youā€™d learn to add two factor authentication to your bank. You might even start investing or take a few business classes.

That is what I mean when I say the demonic ā€œhit close to home.ā€ demons see through you. They see through your whole life, from the day you were born to the day you die. They can see endless possibilities and on timelines that we canā€™t even imagine.

So while King Mammon might be harsh to a magician Iā€™ve found that its the harshest demons who bring the greatest results.

The fact is when working with demons they can see more then you. They can plan ahead much further then you can. When you work with them and set goals with them they know exactly what blocks to knock out for you to get the results in the most fulfilled way. Its like a cosmic game of jenga, they know what blocks to knock down without breaking you. No matter what no demon will do anything or show you anything that you cannot handle.

Continuing as to what can happen when you work with the demonic.

You can absolutely lose your job. But depending on what you asked for and from whom then its replaced by something better and something that will actually serve you.

You can lose family members and friends. But youā€™ll find that as you grow those family and supposed friends were doing nothing but holding you back. Weā€™ve all had that one toxic friend or family in our life that sucks the life out of us. The demonic will not allow that to continue. Theyā€™ll teach you how to value yourself and sometimes to do that you have to have that friend or family taken from you.

You can lose your reality. When working with the demonic you have to open yourself to a whole new world. You see just how large and how small you really are. You begin to fall into paradoxes and understand that reality is far to large for you to ever even scratch the surface. As the demonic break your reality they teach discipline. They give you the tools to walk between both worlds. To do that yes sometimes youā€™ll have to spend a week isolating alone in your room.

Whatever the demonic bring I have never found them to act without extreme forethought. They can see worlds upon worlds and live within centuries forever stretching infinitely long and infinitely short. They are real masters and Kings of being that I only hope I can come to understand.

The demonic give us what we ask for and work alongside us. For us to reach our full potential in this lifetime we have to be ready to lose everything. If you ever feel that someone within your support group is toxic or going against you the demonic will rip them from your life. If you feel stuck within a job that you want to do better in then the demonic will cut that from your life as well.

Why is it important to know this?

Well because as with any venture into unknown territory you need to be informed about the risks. I can talk and speak of the demonic as much as I want to but nothing is the same as actually losing your job or suddenly being faced with your deepest trauma. Change is amazing but it hurts. And it can be scary when you know that youā€™re the one who set into motion that change.

People dont talk about what realistic work with the demonic is like. They ignore the pain and the frustration and the anger that comes when your in the middle of a harsh transition. Iā€™ve yelled at my Kings before. Iā€™ve broken down and stuttered in confusion as to why theyā€™d force me to deal with past trauma. Nothing can ever sum up how stressful it can be, even if the demonic are helping us.

Knowing the temperament of a demon and how they general operate can help you gear up for the change. Some demons are well warned about of course so its not like anyone is left stumbling around aimlessly. Belial is an example that comes to mind. Everyone knows that heā€™s someone you go to if you really need a harsh change but heā€™s also a demon who really cares.

Understanding what you can lose while working with demons is half the battle to successful demonic working. The other half is something that Iā€™ll save for another day.

But no matter how much they cut and alter your life they only do as much as will help you. No matter how harsh the teacher is they will ensure their student grows to know themself. As a magician working with the demonic you should always strive to connect to yourself and learn. If you want to reach whatever goal youā€™ve sent into motion then be ready to examine and let go the things that are holding you back. In order to reach our goal we have to change. If we didnā€™t need to change, didnā€™t need to strive to do better and want more from ourselves then we would have already achieved that which we ask from them.

When we try to curve the demonic influence with angelic ā€œprotectionsā€ its like driving with the brakes on. When you try to drive with the brakes on then you limit how much of your goal you really achieve. You limit how much you can really grow.

If you are scared that the demonic will tear your life up and leave you the shreds then my best advice is to think about why you think theyā€™d do that. Question who your contacting, if its someone like King Mammon but you dont want to lose your job then dont go to such a harsh teacher. Bune will help you just as much and be much more kind to your attachments. Even demons who leave magicians more work, they arenā€™t doing it out of spite. They are treating you like the capable magician they know you can be.

The real consequences of working with the demonic is that you get what you want. Some people do not really want that. Others are too scared to change to get and be who they want to be.

So whoever is reading this know that when you work with the demonic and everything appears to be going down the drain, know that youā€™re doing a great job and to keep going.

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