I had gotten to a point several years ago where I had acknowledged the marriage is sexless and it wasn't going to change. I've held onto hope that when the kids get older and move out, that maybe things will revive.

We had a nice little weekend without kids for most of it so I decided to make another attempt. We did a whole date night and things looked very promising. But when it came time for it to get real, there was a couple of excuses as always. I used it as an opportunity to try and have a conversation. Ultimately, among the reasons given, we're some things completely out of my control so now it's clear in my mind nothing will change. I then dropped a couple subtle hints about opening things up without saying it directly and found out very quickly that will never be an option.

I know it sounds like complaining but it's really just venting. I love all the non sexual things so will never leave unless those elements take a turn for the worse. So I guess I just go back to the realization that my only way of getting off will be my hand unless I decide to make a change.

Thanks for listening and hopefully those of you in similar situations see improvements or find ways to cope.