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Unsure about ethical non-monogamy for myself (32F) and my apathetic husband (31M)
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This is long, so thereā€™s a TLDR at the bottom.

Some detailed background info that you can skip if you want: My husband (31M) and I (32F) have had issues for about 5 years due to what I feel are incompatible attachment stylesā€¦ I have relationship anxiety and need a lot of emotional/physical intimacy to feel loved and secure. When Iā€™m not getting that Iā€™m pretty direct about pointing out my frustrations and clear when it comes to stating what I want/need. My husband is straight up avoidant and the more I express my discontent over the lack of connection, he gets defensive and pulls away from meā€¦ He disassociates often and will pretty much avoid and ignore me after Iā€™ve tried to express how I feel. He knows he does this, but claims he canā€™t help it, he just gets overwhelmed and shuts downā€¦ The problem is, anything slightly negative from me results in this sort of treatment from him. Now itā€™s just become a habit and his default mode is to avoid me for the past few years. Lately heā€™s been under more work stress and when I try to calmly talk to him about things he says he just doesnā€™t have the mental/emotional capacity or energy to deal with it right nowā€¦ He admits to being depressed, but doesnā€™t want to seek treatment even when Iā€™ve offered to make all the arrangements for him. He spends all of his leisure time playing video games upstairs on the opposite end of the house and will be up there from the time our daughter goes to bed until very late at night. We very rarely spend time together outside of family things and there is little to no physical touch or intimacy happening for months on end. I think right now weā€™re at around 3 monthsā€¦even up to 6 months or longer isnā€™t out of the norm. I think since I became pregnant with our daughter we probably have sex 2-3 times a year.

Despite this, we have a really strong friendship and he knows me better than anyone ever has. We also have a young child and rely on each other heavily for support with parenting our neurodivergent kiddo (age 4) and managing the household. Were both neurodivergent as well, so parenting is taxing and overwhelming for us both at times and we give each other breaks as needed. I definitely donā€™t want to get divorced until our daughter is older, able to understand the changes, and we wonā€™t need each otherā€™s support as much in the day-to-day parenting responsibilities.

My current dilemma: A week ago I finally told him that if he doesnā€™t have the mental/emotional capacity to be there for me, work on our relationship, and spend time with me, then I donā€™t see the point in continuing the romantic aspect of our relationship. I still consider him family and have a great deal of love for him and care about himā€¦ I want to stay married and keep our family together for the time being, but I think removing the expectations of a romantic partnership and having hope of anything changing is what I have to do at this point because Iā€™m just tired of feeling hurt and emotionally abandoned. He accepted this and told me that he didnā€™t have any ā€œfightā€ left in him or the ability to give any more than he currently is/has been giving to the relationshipā€¦which is basically nothing. I have suggested multiple different things in the past in an attempt to improve/rebuild our romantic connection and he has not followed through or held up his end of the agreement on anything or put in any effort to meet me in the middle.

I then asked him what he thought about ethical non-monogamy if we are going to continue to stay married, but will no longer have a romantic relationship and he said, ā€œDo what you want, just donā€™t bring it here.ā€ (Here being our home). I asked him if he wanted to discuss additional parameters and he said, ā€œNo, not right now. I have enough to process already,ā€ which is understandable. When I asked him if this was something he was really okay with he said, ā€œIt doesnā€™t matter. Itā€™s your choice.ā€ I told him it does matter and my first choice would be a romantic relationship with him and that I donā€™t want to hurt him, but I donā€™t want to continue feeling lonely and hurt either and Iā€™m not going to be celibate for the rest of my lifeā€¦ I also told him that I wanted it to be a joint decision and for him to have the same freedom to see other people if he wants that. He didnā€™t have much of a response to that. I ended up telling him to let me know if at any point something changes and he feels like he has the mental energy and emotional capacity to try and get our relationship back on track and he said, ā€œOkay, thanks for being honest,ā€ and that was that pretty much itā€¦ We ended the conversation on good terms, hugged (also rare for us), and heā€™s been pleasant with me since then, but hasnā€™t brought it up again.

I have been wanting to see other people for a while now and have been working towards proposing ENM, but now that he has agreed to it, I feel weird about it. I meant what I said about my first choice being a romantic relationship with him, but Iā€™m human and have physical and emotional needs that he hasnā€™t been meeting for years now. I guess a small part of me was hoping that this would give him a bit of a wake up call and make him want to try harderā€¦

How would you proceed? Should I give it a little time and then go ahead and start seeing other people? Does anyone have any experience with non-monogamy in a relationship where there is no physical intimacy or romantic connection with the primary or married partner?

TLDR: I recently suggested ethical non-monogamy to my husband due to unmet emotional and physical needs and 5 years of no improvement or change. He agreed, but I still feel unsure of how to proceed.

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