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Verhulst stream summary about Hal and Joining TSM
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Verhulst lets it all out (Updated with statements from Reps, Albralelie and rebuttal from Hal)

  • Playing with Hal was miserable (He mentions this 13 times), one time Hal kept mentioning a mistake over and over again and he said he would Punch Hal if he did not shut up.
  • Verhulst did not join TSM because he thought it was better, but because TSM would give him more money and viewership , he thinks Optic was the better team (We owe Skittlecakes an apology)
  • Playing Apex is harder when you have Hal in your team, that is why he is grinding more now. Because he does not have to be teammates with Hal anymore
  • He thinks Reps agrees with him in most of these opinions (though Reps will not make any public statement probably) - UPDATE Reps disagrees and thinks it was necessary how Hal led them to win.
  • They actively avoided playing Ranked with Hal, because of how miserable it was
  • He does agree he managed his time poorly after he got a girlfriend
  • Verhulst went on to acknowledge that he did get lazy and so did Raven, ImperialHal was the only one who never stopped practicing. Thinks him and reps being Lazy MIGHT have happened regardless of everything Hal did.
  • He also said his urge to quit was not that intense and apparently everyone has it every now and then

Hal's rebuttal

  • He tried to talk to Evan about these issues multiple times, Evan never said anything to him and he believes Evan avoided saying it because he thinks Hal would not change regardless
  • He said Raven did everything in his power to fix issues, but Evan and Reps would not play the way he coached them to towards the end
  • He feels disappointed that Evan talked about this the way he did after they just hung out at the gym, also says they talked all these issues about privately before.
  • He feels intensity is a must for winning and if people cannot deal with it they should not play with him to begin with, no one was forcing Evan to play with him
  • Hal also goes on a little bit of rambling about money and winning, and how people have no issue as long as they are winning, but I don't think the points were clear enough to be summarized. ''No one complained when we were winning as much and they had a 100 grand in their hands''

Reps' full and only comment on this matter : ''I Don't think we would have had nearly as much success without you (Hal) acting how you did/do even if in the moment we were annoyed or angry about it, it made us wanna be better''

Albralelie chimes in:

  • Says he never resented Hal for anything, whatever negative things he said, it was because he was in a bad head space.
  • He said ''I just felt like the world was against me when covid hit and didn't see the point anymore because we couldn't prove ourselves on lan''
  • Says he nuked his career himself because of the crash that COVID caused.
  • He thinks it is stupid that Verhulst bought it all , quote ''Love ya brotha, stupid that evan brought up all this drama tho lmfao mans coulda just chilled and accepted your guys legacy and moved on peacefully''

Sikezz Chimes in:

''It is basically all Evan's fault for the stuff that he said, I don't understand, they had an incredible year 3 and why couldn't they be okay with it? These players have it so fucking good for so long and as soon as one tiny thing fucks up, they just freak the fuck out, its so fucking immature and its not respectful for your teammates at all, I got second place with Zer0 and Gen and I did not complain at all, did it suck? Yes, but I would never go on stream and Bash Zer0 or Gen or Nick''

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