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Continuing off of where this post and comments left off.

Until serious interest in organizing develops, this group will remain informal, just a place where anybody interested in mapping-cartography can come together to share ideas, works, and resources.

This extends beyond just maps and to literature and other creations of the arts by relation for anyone who would like to bring those disciplines in here as well. My main interest lies with creating beautiful maps, but I have also written one in game book in 2.0, and intend to write more histories and ect. So that interest me as well.

Together, by pooling resources and creations in the form of maps and books in game, and translations into greater versions outside of the game, I think we can help improve the civcraft experience for ourselves and others. Everyone is welcome to participate in any way.


Regarding in game establishments.

I don't see the need for their to be a guild headquarters stationed anywhere specific. Anyone who wants to build a dedicated building for the purpose of furthering this cause in game is welcome to do so. I will build something dedicated to this in Rome either as a dedicated building or as a large wing on an even larger grand library. I'll be willing to add people to allow access to these areas that I'm in control of.

I think it would be great to have various halls in many cities where we can maintain redundant stores of maps, books, and any other items we want. I do not own a printing press. I do not have the wealth for that machine. I wish I did, but I don't. Having one would be great for distributing books.

There will not be a formal leader for the time being, if ever.

If we want to have ranks of any sort to add to the experience. The thought came to me to have weekly and monthly competitions, where submissions are pooled and voted upon for popularity. People who win a weekly poll may achieve the rank Journeyman Cartographer, and someone who wins a monthly poll might be a Master Cartographer. Or something like that.


Also, it is a real possibility that we can offer some quality services to those demanding various cartography products. And that we may be able to make it worth our time. I don't say this to be selfish or greedy. But this example, I worked on today did take me about 6 hours to work on. I spent about 2-2.5 hours making the in-game map from scratch. And another 3-4 hours working on the actual map, some time was wasted as I continued to learn the tool. So the amount of time invested into such a product is not negligible.

As I mentioned on the other post, some of the possible products-services we may be able to offer are:

  • Collection of in game maps for storage, replication, and distribution.

  • Mapping services using in-game maps, and journey map.

  • Artistic conversions of maps.

Prices would vary based off of the size of the project.

Some important things to consider for pricing:

  1. Area mapped. ( My example is 2,000 x 2,000 )

  2. Product resolution. ( My example is 2000x1600 I think )

Although there are other considerations.


Regarding tools to use.

The simplest and most commonplace tools we have to use, (And we'll rely on the most) is Journeymap, and in-game maps. If you are unfamiliar with Journeymap I would point you to this thread where you'll find out more. If you still have questions then ask me.

Other image editing software is desirable to spruce up what comes out of the in-game maps, or journeymap. I have used Paint which works well for simple jobs like adding names and outlines.

To work with larger images (too large for Paint), and to try and accomplish more, I've attempted to use Gimp. I found Gimp to be less than intuitive for my needs. What I usually ended up doing was opening up my excessively large files in Gimp 2, and copied-pasted a section of the map into a smaller file to work on in Paint.

About 2 weeks ago I was looking into cheap cartography software and stumbled upon one that looked like it was capable of what I was looking for. That tool being Campaign Cartographer 3. So far I am not disappointed, but I'm still learning how to use it. That is how I made my first conversion. This wasn't free however. I think it did cost around $40.

There is a lot I was going to say here about this program, but it is worthy of its own comment or post.

Any other suggestions are of course welcome.


Regarding this subreddit

I'm more than willing to add more moderators to the subreddit.

Also, if you have a favorite CSS stylesheet you'd like us to use, let me know, I'll probably just add you so you can upload it if you would like to do that.

I have an 'okay' one I could use, but I do not have an appropriate header image for it yet, so I'll postpone doing that. For now.

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