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[Justice] The case of the stolen station
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So I'm reading the comment thread over here mostly from /u/PeppermintPig and much as I think he's wrong in his anger I think he is actually in the right legally.

I'm not clear on exactly what happened and maybe if /u/crazyguy200 makes it clear it will make more sense. As I understand it /u/PeppermintPig set up a station for his subway. He never finished but left materials in the building when he became inactive. Everything was obviously reinforced. It may also be relevant if he built it for Aurora and it was owned by the federal government. Regardless when /u/crazyguy200 started work on the subways again he understandably wanted to reuse existing infrastructure and the supplied stocked for use in building the subway. He asked around and discovered no one really knew who's it was. So he did what I think many of us would do and have done in the past. He broke some of the reinforced doors and chests in order to use it. This was regrettably illegal.

Under the Aurora Charter at least at the time (we have a conflict currently with a piece of legislation), a plot would be considered derelict and default to state's aka /u/doymand at the time's control after 3 weeks of inactivity on the part of the owner. I'm sure we can be pretty confident /u/PeppermintPig had been inactive for that length of time.

The problem is the charter lays out how to check that. It requires you to do one of three things:

  • Get the player who owned the land to say they have been inactive
  • Have the Chancellor (doymand) post a thread to check if anyone still claims the plot and wait 3 days
  • Post signs and see if they are taken down within (probably 3 weeks)

I'm assuming none of this was done.

So /u/PeppermintPig is angry. I think maybe a bit unjustly, but he has the law on his side. We, however, don't have a proper legal system. Doymand gets to decide if a bounty is valid and /u/cunextautumn can issue a bounty in /u/PeppermintPig's stead if he so chooses out of state funds. Probably none of them will.

We are working on reforming the justice system though so hopefully we will come up with a better system for evaluating claims. Still I think the only thing I can ask is what you think is current compensation /u/PeppermintPig for what amounts to a misunderstand. You've heavily implied you'd have been willing to give the stuff to /u/crazyguy200. Personally I care about fairness and /u/crazyguy200 did break the law/charter so I would like to see some kind of resolution.

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