I'm really not sure how models that massively overhang their base work in game. Having none in my other armies and amazingly not having played against many/rule debates never having come up. With a tank like a gladiator, its all is easy, but huge wings? I'm less sure.

I've not play CD yet, either as them or even against them. How do stupidly wide wings work in game? If say be'lakor is entirely behind a ruin footprint, but the edge of his wing, the very tip, sticks past the footprint as is visible, he can be shot right?

So huge wide wings on a full or primarily melee model, are rather terrible. But does the 6" greater daemon aura extend from the wing or just the base? Obviously LOS works both ways, so wide wings are both good and bad, and its also a plus if the aura extends from all parts of the model.

And turning now - does be'lakor have to pay 2" to pivot on his base as his wings stick out so much? Same for any such model like bloodthirster.

Models which dont have ridiciulously modelled wide wing seem so much easier to use than the mega wide variety.

Any explanaion summary on all this would be very helpful. Seems like hiding models with wide wings is so much more difficult, it will make staging with them much more difficult. Skarbrand seems easier to hide than a bloodthirster.