Been into Bethesda games since fallout 3 and have played all of them except arena and daggerfall. I remember when fallout new Vegas was just released and most of the fandom back then absolutely hated it for how terrible it was at launch, now it’s regarded as the best modern fallout.

Skyrim was widely considered as the pinnacle of Bethesda, now there are a good chunk of fans saying “it was never good”

Now that Starfield is a few months old I’m seeing people start talking about how “fallout 4 wasn’t that bad” which I agree it was overhyped back then, and fell flat by the sole sin of having to follow up Skyrim, but it is still one of their weaker games if we’re honest.

I just find these narratives fascinating, a lot of these discussions end up being a circlejerk one way or another, and it’s like Bethesda fans can’t make up their mind about their games.

For the record I think Starfield is weak in a few aspects, but is very fixable. After a few DLC’s I’m sure the game will be great.