Okay, look at what just happened here.

This whole thread is saying one thing. I point out it isn't true. 100%, demonstrably untrue. It is a fabrication from your side meant to hide the objective truth of a claim from our side. And then look what happens. You don't admit you're wrong, you don't correct yourself, you don't admit you were parroting others which is what you accuse us of, you just try to say "oh well that's a dumb reason anyway" as though that's relevant. That is pure intellectual dishonesty.

CLAIM: Nathan Grayson provided positive coverage for Zoe Quinn without disclosing their personal relationship.

CONCLUSION: The claim is demonstrably true. No one can argue otherwise. The only thing you can do is completely change the claim and then attack the lie you just created, which is what you people are doing. You're lying and putting the lie on your opponents as though it's true.

And yet you and yours are in this thread circlejerking lies and pretending we're all just so stupid for (not actually) believing something that you and yours literally made up to obfuscate and smear.

by a person who wasn't in a relationship at the time

False. It's been proven over and over they were in a relationship at the time.

What you need to do now is admit that what you and everyone else in this thread were claiming is a deliberate misrepresentation of our claim. You all are in essence lying. Whether or not you know you're lying, I don't know, but it is a lie nonetheless.

So, I point out the lie, and instead of admitting that you were wrong and literally parroting things you've seen other people say which is your primary accusation, you just try to make it about something else. "Oh well that's a dumb reason for a movement anyway."

What you need to acknowledge is that you and everyone else in this thread is demonstrably wrong, and that when it's pointed out, you flee from the fact that you're guilty of your own accusations of parroting and instead say "oh well that's a stupid thing to start a movement over anyway."

It's entirely irrelevant whether or not it was "a stupid thing to start a movement over." Not that, by the way, gg actually started because of that. An impetus is not necessarily a sole cause, and it certainly isn't here.

But that isn't the point. None of that matters. The only thing that matters here is every single one of you are propagating a deliberate lie while ignoring the demonstrable truth of the claim of your opponents. You not only ignore it, you lie and change the claim so you can pretend it isn't true.

Look at yourself. Admit to what you just did. Admit you've just been parroting things you've seen other people say. Admit that, when I point out you're peddling a falsehood and ignoring the truth, you try to change the focus of the conversation instead of admitting your error. If you can't admit it I have zero intellectual respect for you because you are thoroughly dishonest.

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