I'm [M30] curious to hear the perspectives of individuals who are familiar with the concept of "jo buds" or masturbation clubs and may have incorporated into their married sex lives.

For the half of the marriage that would attend something like this or consider masturbating with a buddy in an aromantic context, is this something you've entertained with or without your partner's knowledge? If you've brought it up, how, and how did it go? For the other half, how would you feel if your partner participated in this, with and without your knowledge? Do your feelings change if they participate without touching or getting touched? Or whether it's the group scene or with an actual friend where the majority of the relationship involves things other than masturbation?

It seems like mutual male masturbation can be perceived differently than sex or intimacy and more "just getting off." If the articles below are representative, it even seems like many heterosexual men view it similar to solo masturbation in that they'd be doing it anyway and the fact there are others around is almost inconsequential. Have any couples crossed this bridge to address some type of situation such as a dead bedroom scenario, mismatched libidos, exploring openness or ENM, or anything else? If so, any advice or experience to share?

• https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/the-straight-men-who-masturbate-together
• https://english.elpais.com/culture/2022-04-19/the-phallic-brotherhood-what-are-group-masturbation-clubs-and-why-do-men-go-there.html
• https://www.gq.com/story/why-straight-men-are-joining-masturbation-clubs