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AITA: For suggesting we get a housekeeper since we are chronically unable to keep our house clean/organized
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I (42m) work a very long stressful job at a big tech company and make just shy of a half million a year. My wife (42f) is a piano teacher in the evenings to a few students and *maybe* makes 20k a year. That's fine, I knew when we dated that I'd be supporting her financially as our lifestyle would not work on her salary.

Our house is a wreck. We have two young boys (3 and 5years old) and they make it a wreck a lot of the times. Neither my wife nor I am very good at picking up after ourselves. we've had professional organizers come in and 'reset' rooms in the house which invariably descend back into chaos after a few days. Kids underwear everywhere, food out, dishes out, stuff stuck to the floor, nasty bathrooms etc.

At first I viewed the family/house as an enterprise which takes both money and labor to thrive. I was putting in the cash so she should be putting in SOMETHING, namely some work to make it function and have a safe, clean place to raise our boys. That isn't happening.

So fine. She's stressed and tired from taking care of the kids all day and I come home and I'm mentally exhausted from work. I like to hang out with the kids but I don't have the mental or physical energy to do much other than be present for my children and help them get to bed on nights I get done with work that early.

Therefore noting gets done. I've come to terms that my wife is simply not a 'home maker' in the traditional sense. I should have picked up on that fact when we were dating and her condo was a worse disaster than our house. I don't expect all women to be home makers, but I did sort of expect her to pick up that end of the 'House as an enterprise thing' because I'm bankrolling everything and working incredibly hard to do so. Would it kill her to clean the floors and put away the toys with the kids? But i digress.

Today I tried to suggest that we hire someone to come in and do this work. It might be expensive but its a small price to pay for our kids to live in a safe, clean house. And clearly neither one of us are doing the work.

She flipped out and said she didn't even want to have the conversation. That its my fault for not picking up after myself (I can honestly say that's true to a point but not the entire story and not 100% what is going on here). She keeps wanting to 'put systems in place' but nothing ever comes of it. She's afraid she wont be able to find her stuff which is probably true since most of her stuff is out on the counters and not put away. But it feels like she keeps putting up roadblocks that keep us from actually making progress.

But I'm tired of living and filth and have been blessed with the means to potentially pay for a way to take this stress away from both of us and let her focus on the kids and me focus on work. But she's making me feel like an asshole for even bringing it up. So am i the asshole?

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Thank you for your response. i appreciate it. sometimes I think I'm going crazy.

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This is a fair question. I'm in a particularly angry place right now. But I'm honestly not sure any more... and that makes me sad

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She gets very angry at the thought of hiring someone to pick up after me. I do honestly try to put things away but I'm not great at it. But she kind of hates the thought of it. I don't understand why.

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Good for you buddy. I've always had house cleaners until I met my wife and she moved in. she wanted to do all the stuff 'a certain way' but that way just never happens. At some point we have to admit that the current circumstances are untenable.

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This is a good idea. My parents could probably take them for a while and we could clean. it does suck but I'm at the point that it woudl suck less than living the way we are living. I'm not asking for an immaculate house, but just something I'd feel comfortable having friends over to...

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I think this is part of it. It certainly is for me. I'm sort of ashamed / afraid to have anyone come over because its just so bad. The only people that come over are her parents. And that's only because I've heard their house is 10x worse than ours (i've actually never been to their house, which is odd).

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We go to couples therapy. we've decided to not talk about this topic until our next session.

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I'm almost at that point. But the kids, man. I don't know how I could live my life without seeing them every day. I'm also afraid of what their lives would be like if they lived with their mom and the level of clean/sanitary that would exist....

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no prenup. but that's not what makes me worry about it. If we didn't have kids I wouldn't give a shit about the money and actually still don't. its the kids. I don't want to not see them. I don't want to not be able to put them to bed at night and see them in the morning. They are more valuable than any retirement fund or money.

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You're not wrong. I think some of it is ultimately a symptom of a bigger issue.... one I'm not sure how to resolve.

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I agree. I never learned these skills because my parents always cleaned up after me and my dad has OCD and compulsively cleans. Like, my parents house is museum quality clean.

My wife never learned it because her parents are like us and just dont do it.

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if i'm being honest its because I got her pregnant and I love my kids. and i'm trying to make it work because i feel that's what i'm supposed to do.

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