absolutely.. but graham doesnt present himself as an academic archaeologist... flint does though. the debate was awful for both sides.. graham did himself no favours with poor arguments but flint.. well his entire debate was based around misinterpreting grahams work.. then being semantic with it. if you dont even understand what is trying to be said then how can you argue for or against it.

this is the only way people against graham can debate, is by being semantic and misinterpreting the work.

i think you miss the point of what he is trying to say then.

people tend to get mixed up about what a "technologically advanced civilization" is and what he is trying to explain it as.

i think in the terms of "spiritually advanced" not "mechanically advanced" and as far as i can tell this is basically the essence of grahams work.. not about computers and machines in our modern sense. people definitely get mixed up with that. whether thats to do with them not having faith/spiritual beliefs in the first place, so the concepts of what it means to be advanced are outweighed by our modern, materialist technology.

grahams basic idea is that we are a species with amnesia because of a worldwide apocalyptic event during the younger dryas. where we lost our technology. this technology was not metal. it was plant and mushroom knowledge. spiritual knowledge. not machines. not even cities...

if i told you theres substances out there that can be the doorway to different dimensions of reality, you could call that a tool or a technology couldn't you?

people like to ignore everything and make the arguments about "metallurgy" well im telling you now you dont need metallurgy to explore dimensions of reality. do you think what we are trying to discover in science, physics, chemistry, biology.. doesnt have anything to do with the nature of reality? so these substances that can take your consciousness to other places can't have anything to do with the nature of reality? doesn't spirituality in essence, teach you about reality?

you dont need farming, you dont need buildings, you don't need irrigation, you dont need metal, you don't need anything but your mind and a psychedelic drug.

how many 10,000s of years do you think it's possible that humans knew what mushrooms and plants contained these chemicals and ate them?

fascinating hypothesis about the invention of language. it's possible that the main innovators of using language was because of women because they needed directions in which to locate and identify eating and healing plants/veg/mushrooms... "go there, left, that way, its bright red" etc. if men were out hunting then it would be the females at base looking after children and foraging.. men in hunting situations need to be quiet.

it took a million years for us to evolve to what we are today. we have been homo sapiens for 200,000 to 300,000 years. it's being well established in science now that neanderthals weren't stupid.. capable of creating art, capable of foraging.. capable of communicating. neanderthal remains are 430,000 years old. 100,000 years ago, 6 different kind of humans were walking around this planet.

if you study symbology you find that symbols have been used to put across ideas for longer than 10,000 years.. and all these symbols pertain to spirituality. we also know that there's evidence of psychedelic drug use in cave paintings. the boom in our creativity at that time coincides with the growth of the human brain also. which we know that psilocybin creates new neural pathways within the brain. this is terences mckennas idea of the stoned ape theory. the long and progressive eating of psychedelic compounds helped increase brain size.

so 100,000 years of homo sapiens walking around first, then these homo sapiens truly discover psychedelic drugs., start using them more and more. creating spiritual beliefs. say that takes 50,000 years. thats still, 50,000 to 100,000 years we could have been using these drugs. our modern history is 10,000 years old. 50,000 to 100,000 years is ample time to create a religion is it not?

but yeah. you can't find a screwdriver, a bolt or a computer so theres absolutely no way these people were advanced in any way.

like all medical health professionals.. the worst are psychiatrists

heres what i said earlier. its not directed at you either.

i just commented on one of these comments my takes from grahams work.