Yesterday I started talking to 2 men on Hinge. Both had LTR as what they were looking for.

Man 1: 50. Chatted for a bit when he asked for a quick video call as he had been stung with fake profiles. No worries. I had a hoodie on, no make up. Brief chat about him having a prang in the snow (minor car crash) ....all good. Moved to WhatsApp. Immediately said he might get naughty as he thought I was sexy. I shut it down politely saying not for me until I have met someone and established a connection and asked about his love of music. Nope didn't give up.

Man 2: 57. General chat then he asked how I was finding the site. I said OK but obvs still here or wouldn't be chatting to you. How's the male perspective. He said All women want is sex. Do you want sex? I'm not doing anything and you are near to me. I declined and re itererated casual sex is not my bag. He then asked if I wanted to watch him wanking looking at my pics.

For the love of God what is wrong with them? Am I the only woman who finds sex chat pre establishing a connection pointless as you don't even know if you gel in person and TOTALLY FUCKING BORING! I can't be the last woman in Cheshire who is that old fashioned that the 1st time I see a prospective partners penis....I am in the same room as the penis in person....or am I?

Women: Do you feel my pain?

Men: Why? What happened to respect and No thanks still means no?

There is no way I would meet either of these men now. If you can't respect me using my words on a message you won't respect me using my voice in person