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As Taliban starts restricting men, too, some regret not speaking up sooner.
"Women have faced an onslaught of increasingly severe limits on their personal freedom and rules about their dress since the Taliban seized power three years ago. But men in urban areas could, for the most part, carry on freely.
The past four weeks, however, have brought significant changes for them, too. New laws promulgated in late August mandate that men wear a fist-long beard, bar them from imitating non-Muslims in appearance or behavior, widely interpreted as a prohibition against jeans, and ban haircuts that are against Islamic law, which essentially means short or Western styles. Men are now also prohibited from looking at women other than their wives or relatives."
Article from late September in the Washington Post. Gift article:
âNah dude, Iâd rather just judge them based on the standards of living in the US. Â While I simultaneously do nothing but whine online as minorities and women are stripped of rights in my own countryâ
Canât make up how hypocritical the folks that make this âwhy donât they just stand up?â bad faith argument are.
You personally fought in a combat role? Â Or were you safe in America the whole time and are playing the royal We here?
This doesnât even work in reality in the west.
You really think that a group based on religious fanaticism is gonna get taken down by atheists trying to stealth convert the group to western values?
Some of you have just zero grasp of reality or how these organizations actually operate. Â You need to get out of your safe middle American bubble and spend time in actual totalitarian countries so you can see how much of a joke all this âTrump the dictatorâ shit actually is.
All we know in America is how to pantomime any of this shit.
The vast majority of white folks in South Africa did fuck all to help non-whites. Same deal for the US for both slavery and Jim Crow.
We have a looooong history of people who wait for there to be zero personal risk before standing up for what they think is right.
And in the case of Eastern Europe/Soviet UnionâŚagain itâs a tiny minority doing the standing up.  There are more who virtue signal support (Ukrainian flags, BLM signs, snark online) than who actually risk their necks.  The vast majority of folks in the Eastern bloc put their heads down and just dealt with shit.  The same way that Afghans who have dealt with the trauma of 40 years of nearly uninterrupted war probably donât want to have to fight yet another war where they are incredibly overmatched by a crazy violent group funded by state actors.
Itâs easy to talk shit from the safety of the US, where your right to protest and talk shit about governments is mostly protected. Â And where youâve never been confronted by a government that had no qualms murdering you for the slightest bit of dissent.
It's really really really easy to tell other people in places where you have zero skin in the game to risk their lives. And I don't even know you calculated that potential kill ratio, given Taliban has such a massive arms and financial advantage over their population. Like, honestly, how would each woman actually go about getting the weapons necessary to kill one dude when the average human doesn't have it in them to kill anyone?
The reality is that you have never lived under the kind of violent regime as the Taliban. There's a reason these regimes are the norm across history. And why most peasant rebellions ultimately fail and end up with piles of dead peasants. The most famous revolution in modern history, the French Revolution, is a classic example of this. The end state for the peasant was more or less the same as it was at the beginning, the only thing that changed was the network of people who held power.
Also note that maybe only 3% of the actual colonial population participated as revolutionaries in the American Revolutionary war. And that 3% had massive financial and military support from Prussia, France and a few other European states. Without massive outside backing, peasant rebellions have 0 chance, empirically, to succeed.
But hey, since you know what to do, why don't you go and train these women yourself instead of sitting comfortably from the first world and playing arm chair general?
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They chose the safest option, they didnât explicitly choose Taliban.
I would also disagree that if women stood up there would be Taliban corpses.
The harsher reality is that if they stood up en masse, there would be more womenâs corpses on the streets.