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I am not the Original Poster. Originally posted by u/AITA1231452524545232 in r/AmItheAsshole.
light editing for typos.
mood spoiler: sad, frustrating
AITA: Not wanting my parents to be involved in my EX's new family? (25 Dec 2021)
AITA?
I was previously married for about 8 years. While we were married my parents seems to never like my spouse and more then once i had to ask them to stop saying unkind things to her. They kept pushing us to have kids but we never did. Eventually we had some marital issues (and to be clear I am not blaming her for these issues, it was both of us) and were on a trial separation while in counseling and at the time the agreement was that we were not seeing other people.
However suddenly my spouse was pregnant; and it was not possible that it was mine as the last time we had had sex was two months prior to her conception date. That was the end of the marriage and I filed for divorce 2 days after I found out. My parents, knowing fully that this was not my child and that the conception was my spouse cheating on me, however then chose to support my ex through her pregnancy. They chose to play grandparent to my Ex's kid. When I told them it was an issue for me that they were so involved in her life still their solution was to lie (poorly) and now just not talk about it. I found our second hand that not only did they go to her wedding (to the guy she cheated with) but that my father gave her away at that wedding. They now also play grandparent to her two additional kids with the new hubby. They go on vacations with her and her family. This has been going on for 10 years and I feel like I lost my parent in my divorce. I can't talk to my parents because they will just lie to me like they do about seeing my ex. I found out (again second hand) that my ex and her family are staying with my parents and are there with them today for Christmas (which explains why I wasn't invited when all my siblings were).
My parents have said that they feel like I am being ridiculous and that it's their christian duty to look out for "my" child (which they say is mine because we were married when she got pregnant) even if I feel like abandoning the kid is ok. They blame me for "the family never being able to be together" since I won't attend family events that she's going to, which more and more is all of them. Everyone in my family has pretty much treated me as persona non grata for "abandoning" the family.
AITA here? Am I the one destroying the family? Should I just play uncle to my ex's kids that I want nothing to do with?
Relevant Comments:
- OOP: Their [The parents'] response, during the divorce, her breaking the marriage covenant is that I needed to really think about forgiveness and maybe learn to turn the other cheek.
- OOP: the birth certificate is accurate for both the childās parents, neither of which is me.
- OOP is asked what his siblings think of the situation: They have no issues with this and most have told me some form of āthe family could all be together if you wouldnāt create so much dramaā. They see my refusal to attend events with my ex as me breaking up the family needlessly.
- OOP is asked what the parents' think of his ex's new husband: They seem to tolerate him. My eldest sibling has a spouse that my parents tolerate as well. Itās clear that they actually like my youngest siblings partner (not same sex but also not married). They seemed to tolerate my ex until the day they found out she was pregnant. Then they seemed to really like her.
- Someone suggests that OOP is the scapegoat in his family and has been blamed for things that aren't his fault for so long that he just couldn't see how wrong this is because it's normal to him. OOP: Ouch. Suddenly I feel like Iām on r/roastme Seriously though, I had never thought of it like that and justā¦.Iām not even sure what to say. Itās like a light bulb Iām just in shock a.t.m.
- Someone asks what his ex gets out of this, that she would be OK with his parent's doting on her like this. OOP: She gets validation and support, something she never got growing up.
- Someone asks what the ex's relationship is like with her own family. OOP: She had a strained relationship with her family before we got married. It seemed better while we were married. I have no idea what her relationship is with them now. I have no idea what family the new hubby has or doesnāt have.
UPDATE: Not wanting my parents to be involved in my EXās new family? (26 Dec 2022)
Last year for Christmas my parents invited my 4 adult siblings and their families and my ex and her new family to Christmas at their house. Since I had made it clear I donāt want to spend time with my ex and her new family I was seen as causing a problem so they just didnāt tell me about it. One of my siblings let it slip accidentally on Christmas Eve that they were all there without me, making it clear everyone felt it was my fault I could not be invited. It was devastating to feel like I was being excluded from my own family yet again. To be lied to yet again.
Much to my shock on the original post I was judged NTA; and it made me see much of my entire lifeās interactions with my family differently.
Follow up:
- As suggested I started going low contact; essentially I just stopped trying to maintain the contact with them and let them do all the work thereā¦.which they havenāt so low contact has been in essence no contact. Which has both sucked and been healthier for me. I donāt even know what they are doing for Christmas this yearā¦.which is actually easier then knowing they are doing something and choosing to excluding me.
- I did print out some of the post from last year and showed them to my therapist as suggested. He berated me for listening to people on the internet and cutting off a āvital partā of my support system. After 2 months of weekly appointments listening to him talk about ways to fix the relationship and apologize to my family and make amends with them; I just stopped making appointments with him. That was in March.
- After stopping contact with my family and therapist I found I had a really hard time (super anxious and second guessing every interaction) even being around my friends so Iāve kinda stopped seeing them either.
I had a good WFH job so I just started working all the time. It was good for my career and I got a major promotion in Q3; it was a large enough promo that I donāt stress about money anymore, which was a constant stressed before. So spending my energy somewhere other then on my family has been life changing.
Relevant Comments:
- Someone suggests OOP send his friends a text apologizing for going silent because he was going through a lot, and working on rebuilding his relationships. OOP: I feel like Iāve written and deleted that text to friends so many times. I just donāt feel like I would know what to say to them. I donāt feel like any interaction with them would be good? Productive? Worth it? I donāt know. I guess I just donāt feel like they will understand or care ( any why should they) so donāt feel like itās even worth trying. Iām not sure being alone is what I would choose, but I also donāt feel like I know how to let anyone in anymore. I guess the reality is once you understand just how much even your parents and siblings see you as disposable; itās really hard to be open to being thrown away againā¦.especially by people you think are friends. So I delete the text and keep them as friends.
- Another comment from OOP about his friends: I guess itās easier to assume they actually still are my friends then to send a text and get no reply. My family was never really family. Are my friends actually friends? I guess itās more Schrƶdingers cat then an actual friendship and when it comes down to it I guess i suddenly realize Iām clinging to the alive version of the cat because super position is easier then knowing.
- OOP on finding a new therapist: Iām not sure how to find that. The thought of calling around and finding someone and dealing with waiting lists and people not taking new patientsā¦..Iām just feel like it would be a waste to do that again. It took months the last time.
Editors Note: Marked as "Inconclusive" because OOP took a year to update the first time, and it seems like he still isn't sure what he is going to do with his life and relationships.
Reminder: I am not the Original Poster. Originally posted by u/AITA1231452524545232 in r/AmItheAsshole.
This one really got to me, because poor OOP is in such a bad place, and I know that feeling all too well of life going to shit in ways that feels impossible to share with your friends. The thing that resonated with me the most was that doubt about if your friends are really even your friends, when you've just realized that your family was never really your family.
I hope so much that OOP does go and look for another therapist and finds happiness. He seems like a reasonable and resilient person, given what he's been through, and he deserves love and healthy relationships.
Same! A lot of the trauma that I have gone through has been because of misogyny or things that men did. So I actively do not want a male therapist.
I have known some men who search for a male therapist, because it's more comfortable or because they specifically want the validation of another man telling them that their trauma doesn't make them less manly. And then I have known men who specifically want a female therapist because their trauma is related to the men in their life, and they are at a place where they don't feel strong enough yet to open up about it to another man.
I can see a lot of really good reasons why anybody would look for a therapist of a particular gender depending on the intricacies of their trauma.
I didn't end up copying it, but I remember there being a question about that, and the therapist was not religiously affiliated. Just not a good therapist.
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It's kinda scary how many therapists don't actually focus on what their patients actually need. I have let go several therapists after realizing once we got past the "getting to know each other" stage that they had too much of an agenda towards certain specific outcomes vs actually helping me to figure out what I really need.